1st gen talon turbo, what can i use?

92greencivic

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ok i found a 1st gen talon turbo. i want to do a budget turbo on my d16y8 and was wondering what all i can use off of this car. it has turbo, bov, injectors and all that good stuff. what can be used? oh and can i use the downpipe if i mod it. thanks!
 

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you should be able to use most of what you listed, the exhaust manifold off of an hx i belive will bolt up with minor mods to your turbo. you'll have to measure the downpipe for clearance. and a 1g dsm bov is a great bov.
 


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does the talon not run or something?
 

92greencivic

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there is some rear body damage on it, but the girl who owned it before blew up the motor in it.. blew a rod and messed up the block i think, turbo still looks good, not much shaft play, it looks kinda nasty though, what should i use to clean it? oh and where can i find a hx mani? non of my junkyards round here have any hx, cx, or hf cars with motors
 


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do NOT take those injectors they flow less cc's, im pretty sure. unless they have a blue top to them, then take em....but for some reason i think the autos have different ones. the bov is excellent, take that WITH the black pipe its on. take the turbo, take the ic (sell it).
 

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SeanMc300 said:
take the turbo, take the ic (sell it).
the dsm intercooler is a great one to use until you can afford a bigger one.
and like he said MAKE SURE YOU GET THE PIPE along with the intercooler
 

92greencivic

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will alot of the pipe fit with my civic? and the injectors are smaller on an auto but this is a stick with blue top injectors.
 

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get those injectors with the clips. get the bov that is connected to the black pipe. no dont use the chage pipting from it. i wouldnt use a dsm intercooler, id grab it, sell it on ebay and get a probe ic.
 

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dsm intercoolers are great for up tp 220 hp and so is the turbo
a stock d16 can only support so much so why shouldnt he take them
the injectors can do 350hp, the bov does 10psi and more if u crush it

basically take everything ull need for a turbo setup and ur set
 

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well, ok ill get all of the stuff that has anything to do with turbo off of the car.. i hook it all up to my civic, with a hf mani or something that ill rig up with all the pipes made, what will i need to buy other than that? i know like oil feed lines and all that stuff but electronic wise.. i just need the basics cuz im VERY low on money.
 

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turbo timer. boost guage, egt gauge, oil presure guage. get a downpipe fabbed up for ya...charge pipes, missing link and fmu (vortec 12:1), high pressure inline booster.
 

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no on the fmu and inline pump

get a vafc or an safc and use it to control ur 450cc injectors
remember to retard ur timing on the dizzy
 

92greencivic

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why not fmu or inline pump? ive heard both work and i have to go the most inexpensive route
 

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fmu and inline pump will cost u more than an afc and u cant go over 6 psi safely

trust me get an afc and ull be very happy with 10psi
 

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well i was planing on running 7 or 8 psi or so but will the s-afc be enough by itself??
 

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yes man its called the "afc hack"
all u need is bigger injectors and an afc and u scale down the injectors using the afc
 

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are you on f**king drugs?!?!? fmu and inline booster wont let you go over 6psi?? what the f**k are you talking about? witness to a 93 si hatch running 10psi off of a ihi rhb5 with a vortec 12:1 fmu fuel managment...for OVER A YEAR, still working perfect to this day. lets see, missing link, 50 bucks, inline booster 90 bucks, fmu 120 bucks....260 is less than the 350 for the vafc, and he wont need to get larger injectors...or a resistor box....which will raise the cost to probably around 460ish...

dont say how much psi youre going to run, say what turbo you plan to use and what hp level you wish to obtain....THEN we can figure out how much psi you need to boost at to reach the hp.

oh, and again, a fmu-missing link-inline booster will be fine. plus this wya you need larger injectors.
 

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switch over to the hack and u will see the power increase

u gotta try the entire meal before u select ur favorite dish there sean
i think ur the ignorant one here

btw i would rank the fmu s**t last on my list for management for a honda because there are cheaper better ways and who the f**k would buy a NEW vafc?
 

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ok, a used vafc...total cost after injectors and resistor box (assuming he is gonna use the dsm injectors) 400ish. the "power increase" will be minimal, maybe like...5hp if that. both will give you a lean hole when transfering from vacuum to boost. plus he'll have to get more money to have some dood tune it. if he does it on his own, i doubt he will know what he is doing...therefore resulting in something bad happening.

ignorant, where this come from?
 

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well there isnt a dyno near my town and so i cant dyno tune it or anyting.. and im gonna use the dsm injectors and i guess inline pump and fmu.. im not sure on what i want with hp but i know i want more than now. i want something that is still reliable and wont blow up my y8. is 170 maybe less or more depending on reliability. everything but the fuel managment im getting really cheap(turbo, ic, injectors, bov) so im not expecting alot out of it.
 


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