9,000 rpm

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I've heard of b18's reaching 9,000 rpms. If I balance the crank, do I have to balance the camshafts or can I balance them? I also have JE 10.5:1 pistons and Eagle rods to go with it. Well they be able to handle the stress? thanks
 

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they can do 9k with minimal mods.
 


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making power with more boost is safer than with more rpm. boost puts more compression force on the rod, which is what its meant to take. rpm puts tension on the rod bolts, which are far weaker.
 

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Handlebars said:
making power with more boost is safer than with more rpm. boost puts more compression force on the rod, which is what its meant to take. rpm puts tension on the rod bolts, which are far weaker.
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hmmm....didn't know that. So, with the current set up(not balancing the crank then). What rpm's can I reach?
 

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jason_guy_yeah said:
hmmm....didn't know that. So, with the current set up(not balancing the crank then). What rpm's can I reach?
there is no reason on reving so high if the motor is not going to make anymore power at high rpms. Only a proper tune of the car will you know whats the highest you can rev without loosing power.
 

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depending on the type of cams I get and/or how much the cams get adjusted; will move the power curve.
 

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jason_guy_yeah said:
so, would anybody know if I can reach 9000 rpms?
dude, you can rev to 9k all day long... its pointless unless you built it to make power up that high anyways.

you will need to balance the entire bottom end, lighten the rotational mass, and lighten the valvetrain as well. you will need a big cam, and a really good tune. hope that answers your:?:
 

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You need to dyno the car and see how much you have shifted the power curve if any....higher rpm does not mean more HP hell you can rev a SOHC to 9K if you want but why?
 

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my buddys integra revs to 12,000. it stops making power at around 10,500 rpm. but its a amazingly built motor.
 

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sohclubkid said:
dude, you can rev to 9k all day long... its pointless unless you built it to make power up that high anyways.

you will need to balance the entire bottom end, lighten the rotational mass, and lighten the valvetrain as well. you will need a big cam, and a really good tune. hope that answers your:?:
rotational mass?? and lightening the valvetrain, you mean lightening the cams?:x
 

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sohclubkid said:
dude, you can rev to 9k all day long... its pointless unless you built it to make power up that high anyways.

you will need to balance the entire bottom end, lighten the rotational mass, and lighten the valvetrain as well. you will need a big cam, and a really good tune. hope that answers your:?:
You are correct on balancing the bottom end and lighten the rotationsl mass (ie. flywheel, crank pulley) but this is not a must. And i think you ment to say strengthn the valvetrain and some higher lift cams. And do make sure you get a great tune. And what is the comprassion ratio you are heading for?
 

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jason_guy_yeah said:
rotational mass?? and lightening the valvetrain, you mean lightening the cams?:x
rotational mass... like lightweight flywheel and such. and cams are fine like they are, they will snap usually if you lighten them, so i dont reccomend that. titanium valves (or sodium filled i believe), retainers, and upgraded valvesprings. those are things to look into.
 

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if u wanna rev high you have to build your head up.......otherwise ur float ur valves....
 

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jason_guy_yeah said:
so, would anybody know if I can reach 9000 rpms?
what the hell for?

do you have the cams, IM, TB, ported head to make power that high? no need to rev that high if your powerband falls off around 7k...
 

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jason_guy_yeah said:
because I can. So, what do I need to do to make this happen?
save yourself the trouble and just smash a hole in the block with a sledgehammer, because chances are revving that high on a stock motor is going to put a hole in the block anyways
 

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no dude!, I'm not going to do this on a stock motor. I'm asking what other internals/balancing I need to do. Oh, yeah, I also have crower springs.
 


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