actually i did installed it with the benen tie bar...the bolts that came with the Asr subframe was long enough...just that it look kinda funny with the benen tie bar so i took it off..maybe i might install it back again and take pics with them on and get your guys feedback on how it look...EM1_Chris said:You can still put the benen tie bar on it right?...I'm assuming you would need longer bolts.