Alpine Type R??
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Do not buy Type-Rs if you do not plan to amp them! You are much better off with Type-S, that's what I'm running and am very happy with them. They lack bass compared to Infinity Kappa or Kenwood Exceleron, but they are clean and a decent price.
i don't understand why you get aftermarket speakers without an amplifier anyways. that makes no sense to me. 
1: Because even though my Kenwood deck is only 22watts RMS it will execute the factory PioneersAkiahara96 said:i don't understand why you get aftermarket speakers without an amplifier anyways. that makes no sense to me.
2: Because the factory OE speaker's rolled foam edge was dry rotted years ago
3: Because the OE speakers suck rhino ass
4: Because I knew that the factory speakers sucked rhino ass and that the rolled foam edge was rotted so I took off the covers, cranked up the bass and volume until they literally shot out away from their cheesy stamped baskets
5: And in the PT? the right front 6 3/4inch was blown and I just happened to have a set of Polk GXR6es and mounting rings. Factory Chrysler speakers are crap. Low density polyethylene baskets, comically small magnets, paper whizzer cone, voice coil was the size of a pencil. So the PT got aftermarket speakers.
i didn't say anything about factory speakers, guys.. 
i just wouldn't get aftermarket speakers with an amplifier to power them. i guess if i had them just laying around that'd be a different story.
i just wouldn't get aftermarket speakers with an amplifier to power them. i guess if i had them just laying around that'd be a different story.
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because alot of higher end headunits i.e. alpine has an internal amplifier which is more than enough for speakers such as the type's's but.. yea. .if you plan on getting the type r's an external amp will have to be usedAkiahara96 said:i didn't say anything about factory speakers, guys..
i just wouldn't get aftermarket speakers with an amplifier to power them. i guess if i had them just laying around that'd be a different story.
headunits don't put out 50 watts. 6.5in type s coaxials are 50 watts RMS. just fyi. i would not put speakers like alpines in without an amp. maybe some cheap old crappy walmart speakers, but not anything that i'm spending money on. 
I gotta agree with you, in order to get the most quality and sound out of the speaker is with a good amp, If your already springing for nice speakers, why not save a little more and do it right?Akiahara96 said:headunits don't put out 50 watts. 6.5in type s coaxials are 50 watts RMS. just fyi. i would not put speakers like alpines in without an amp. maybe some cheap old crappy walmart speakers, but not anything that i'm spending money on.
The only speakers I run with out an amp are my rear pioneer 6x9's mainly because I dont care much about rear fill with this setup, fronts are still stock.... and still holding up..
My next setup this summer will be a full eD system (front comps, sub, custom box, amps)
Most Kenwoods are 22watts RMS. In fact everything from eXcelon down spec out about the same. On the higher end models you are paying for the display, additional pre-amp outs, internal sub control, etc... but the internal MOSFET amp is the same. Pioneer appears to be the samePEARLelectron said:
By comparison the Alpine CDA-9857 is 18watts RMS
The Eclipse CD7000 is 14watts RMS
But when the Type S-es cost as much or less than as a set of cheap WalMart Sony Xplodes?Akiahara96 said:headunits don't put out 50 watts. 6.5in type s coaxials are 50 watts RMS. just fyi. i would not put speakers like alpines in without an amp. maybe some cheap old crappy walmart speakers, but not anything that i'm spending money on.
Again, they were on clearance at CarToys for $49. How do you pass that up?
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All i kno is that i dont have my speakers any where near the volume i can turn my headunit up too..So i think i can safely say that its enough to power my 2 speakersBeelzebubba said:Most Kenwoods are 22watts RMS. In fact everything from eXcelon down spec out about the same. On the higher end models you are paying for the display, additional pre-amp outs, internal sub control, etc... but the internal MOSFET amp is the same. Pioneer appears to be the same
By comparison the Alpine CDA-9857 is 18watts RMS
The Eclipse CD7000 is 14watts RMS
But when the Type S-es cost as much or less than as a set of cheap WalMart Sony Xplodes?
Again, they were on clearance at CarToys for $49. How do you pass that up?
elemental design?1999stockaccord said:
volume does not equal power. if you turn your volume up way high, those speakers will not have enough power, they will distort, they will sound like s**t, and if you do it all the time, they'll eventually fry.
okay, if you got them for fifty bucks do whatever the hell you want with them.
thanks for being difficult, beelze! <3PEARLelectron
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Akiahara96 said:elemental design?
volume does not equal power. if you turn your volume up way high, those speakers will not have enough power, they will distort, they will sound like s**t, and if you do it all the time, they'll eventually fry.
okay, if you got them for fifty bucks do whatever the hell you want with them.
but thats the thing.... I can turn them up to the loudest bearable level.. without distorting.......... why do people honestly need to have they're speakers super loud?????? pointless really
Alpines can be had for a decent price. I think I got my full set for around 135 brand new off eBay. I agree completely with amplifying aftermarket speakers, but I have a full list of things to do before I get amp'd... like replace my stolen iPod and deck... theiving f**kers.
Are you running off the stock deck? Somehow I doubt any moderately powered receiver wouldn't distort Xplods. You have to have some sort of crossover to minimize distortion and an amplifier happens to have one built in... why not go louder since you need that crossover anyways?PEARLelectron said:
i SERIOUSLY doubt that you don't have distortion. higher volume isn't necessarily the point. it's a better signal. better for your speakers. sounds so much better.
i'd bet you have distortion if i could take a listen. i've never heard loud, unamplified speakers that weren't distorted.
i'd bet you have distortion if i could take a listen.
i've never heard loud, unamplified speakers that weren't distorted.