Best Racing seats for the money??

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BlackHope121 said:
recaro is overated.... real real comfortable and nice ....but just too much money imo for just something to sit in. You can buy a leather couch or even a motor for 2000. I would love to have them instead of my replicas but not for that money.. I love the way my replicas feel. Much better than stock and i still have money. Try NRG.. jdm car boy and robearracing sell them.
Well, I've seen the reclining mechanism on cheap seats collapse during accidents. Not really peace of mind especially if you are gonna go balls out on the track or screw around on the streets. There's no real inspection system for aftermarket seats and harnesses, hence why all these companies can pump out cheap copies. I say no thank you to stuff like that. Hence, why any seats I look to get have FIA certification. Rather pay more to start with than to suffer any consequences later down the road.
 

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eg6_310 said:
Well, I've seen the reclining mechanism on cheap seats collapse during accidents. Not really peace of mind especially if you are gonna go balls out on the track or screw around on the streets. There's no real inspection system for aftermarket seats and harnesses, hence why all these companies can pump out cheap copies. I say no thank you to stuff like that. Hence, why any seats I look to get have FIA certification. Rather pay more to start with than to suffer any consequences later down the road.
you are right...safety is an issue sometimes in replica seats...Im not really worried with mine though.
 


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eg6_310 said:
Well, I've seen the reclining mechanism on cheap seats collapse during accidents.
i've seen that happen on oem seats, recaros and sparcos as well :what:
 


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just kinda curious, i was lookin at some Tenzo Type R's whhere do those rate as far as cheapness?
 

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Gonzo said:
just kinda curious, i was lookin at some Tenzo Type R's whhere do those rate as far as cheapness?

the only other "racing seat" ive ever had... had them for like 16 hours.. and thats my honest opinion on them
 

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$lick Rick said:
i've seen that happen on oem seats, recaros and sparcos as well :what:
Okay, but what's the probability of that happening on cheap seats vs. quality seats? On FIA-certified seats, the standards are hella stringent, much more than governing regulations all over the world. Obviously, FIA-cert seats are pretty astronomical in price so that's not a good comparison, but it's like anything else out there - you get what you pay for.
 

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oc_civic said:
the only other "racing seat" ive ever had... had them for like 16 hours.. and thats my honest opinion on them
Hahahaha... lemme guess.... some uncomfortable ass buckets with bolsters so deep you had to use a pry bar to get yourself out!
 

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just kinda curious, i was lookin at some Tenzo Type R's whhere do those rate as far as cheapness?
They're crap. We were f**kin around with an old school Starion a while back. Dropped a 4G63 into it and wanted to make it into a bucket racer. Didn't want to drop money into the interior, so one of my buddies brought a set of Tenzo seats from his shop. f**kin terrible. The reclining mechanism on the passenger side failed, so it wouldn't stay upright if someone sat in em. And the fabric on the driver's side seat started disintegrating after seeing some use. Those went into the dumpster within 3 months.
 

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Okay, but what's the probability of that happening on cheap seats vs. quality seats?
like oem seats? :lol:

but yeah, honestly probably about the same :what:

i've seen one pair of cheapos collapse personally in a crash, and one set of recaros.

now take into account that for every one person that has real deal seats there are 100 out there with knockoffs.... the percentage values arent going in the "real deals" favor

but realistically i'd say it's about the same with a decent quality no name as with an expensive brand

lets face it though, if the wreck is gonna be bad enough that it's ripping metal on the interior..... reclining is gonna be the least of your worries :lol:

the only real and safe way to install aftermarket seats is to accompany them with a roll cage which in any case would stop the seats from reclining backwards and the belts would stop you from going forwards
if this is done than seat failure is MUCH more limited on any and all seats

also many people pair the "race seats" with aftermarket steering wheels and eliminate their air bags...
 

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They're crap. We were f**kin around with an old school Starion a while back. Dropped a 4G63 into it and wanted to make it into a bucket racer. Didn't want to drop money into the interior, so one of my buddies brought a set of Tenzo seats from his shop. f**kin terrible. The reclining mechanism on the passenger side failed, so it wouldn't stay upright if someone sat in em. And the fabric on the driver's side seat started disintegrating after seeing some use. Those went into the dumpster within 3 months.
tenzo is just a cheap ass seat... i'll agree there

not meant to last what so ever.

cheap material, cheap construction, and half the time they are crooked when you install them
 

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like oem seats? :lol:

but yeah, honestly probably about the same :what:

i've seen one pair of cheapos collapse personally in a crash, and one set of recaros.

now take into account that for every one person that has real deal seats there are 100 out there with knockoffs.... the percentage values arent going in the "real deals" favor

but realistically i'd say it's about the same with a decent quality no name as with an expensive brand

lets face it though, if the wreck is gonna be bad enough that it's ripping metal on the interior..... reclining is gonna be the least of your worries :lol:

the only real and safe way to install aftermarket seats is to accompany them with a roll cage which in any case would stop the seats from reclining backwards and the belts would stop you from going forwards
if this is done than seat failure is MUCH more limited on any and all seats

also many people pair the "race seats" with aftermarket steering wheels and eliminate their air bags...
The most common accident on the road is the front / rear end collision, which of course means that whiplash is the most common injury in a car accident. So, what are the most important safety measures built into a seat?

- A strong, study backrest to support the back.
- A padded headrest to absorb and support the head when it snaps back
- An engineering seat frame that can absorb impact energy
- Seat pad and structural design to prevent submarining in a frontal crash

Is it fair to say that the cheap seat manufacturer out there don't do any testing / development to address these issues? And of course, none of the cheap seat manufacturers have ISO or DIN certification to meet certain production process requirements as they come out of sweat shops in Thailand, Taiwan, the Philippines or China.

Recaro, for example, has the following tests / equipment in seat development.

> Tension/pressure testing machines
> Pulsating load testing equipment
> Crash-test simulator
> Head impact pendulum
> Oscillation testing equipment
> Endurance testing units
> Sound testing equipment
> Climate-controlled cell
> Seat climate testing equipment
> Universal test machine
> Seat pressure distribution measuring equipment together with KEIPER
> Electrical engineering workshop

Installing a roll cage on a daily driven car is not a reasonable idea and in many respects overkill. Learning how to drive properly and abiding by a certain level of safety when driving goes a much longer way than installing a roll cage which would probably make the 16 kid feel more invincible than ever. If everyone took a Skip Barber defensive driving course and other courses they teach over there, I guarantee the accident rate would plummet.

I agree, most people who have aftermarket seats have cheap seats. But that's not because they didn't want the nice branded seats. Because most are in such a hurry to "keep up with the Joneses" they don't consider all the underlying factors behind what they are buying and pick up what they can for the "look." Personally, I'll use the faded stock seats in the EG til I come up with additional funds for Recaros. No way I am going to settle for some crap seats. When someone cries cuz their cheap part fails, I have no sympathy for em whatsoever. s**t, there was this one kid who slapped on an $800 turbo kit to his hatch and blew up the motor and he's asking my homie at the shop what went wrong. Well, f**kin durh.
 

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oc_civic said:
so does universal sliders mean crap???...and how much work is it to make universal brackets and sliders fit into a civic?
 

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2kstreetcivic said:
so does universal sliders mean crap???...and how much work is it to make universal brackets and sliders fit into a civic?
Man, why are you trying to cut corners with this stuff? Might as well get quality stuff that's already made and available on the market.
 

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eg6_310 said:
Man, why are you trying to cut corners with this stuff? Might as well get quality stuff that's already made and available on the market.
Dude, Im not trying to cut corners..IM TRYING TO LEARN.....I dont wanna get really nice seats and be like I got these because of the name..I wanna know all the info so I am educated....its called research...
 

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2kstreetcivic said:
Dude, Im not trying to cut corners..IM TRYING TO LEARN.....I dont wanna get really nice seats and be like I got these because of the name..I wanna know all the info so I am educated....its called research...
How is trying to fit universal rails (don't see how they're "universal" considering that every car as a different bolt layout) research? Whatever floats your boat.
 


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