dont ride your bike in the street

Ian123

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so the other day some jackass decides to ride his bike down a 45 mph street instead of just riding on the sidewalk right next to it. usually not a big problem to me, just a little annoying, but the guy driving in front of me, instead of swerving around the guy like a normal driver would, he decides to SLAM on his brakes and drive behind the biker. this in turn causes me to slam on my brakes, causing the wheel cylinder to explode, leaking brake fluid everywhere, bending my backing plate and brake shoe on the drivers side, and rendering me with no brakes. luckily (or so i thought) i got my brakes fixed just a week earlier and still under warranty Merchants tire gladly towed me for free and said they would fix it. then i come to find out somehow my rear axle got bent? wtf? so they cant fix the brakes until the axle gets fixed. so now i have to tow it to another place to get a new axle (i think) and THEN tow it BACK to merchants and get the brakes fixed. this sucks so bad. no point to this story really, just venting. the worst part is that im trying to sell the truck so now i have to put all this money into it that im never going to get back.
 

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thats a chevy for you :thumbs up
 


thadoggma

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too true, sorry to hear about that bud. im a ford guy myself. not becasue they are better or nothin, but because i like working on them more than chevys. (and they dont break as much, but when they do its a doozy, cuz im good at breakin things)
 

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tahoes ftl
 


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Wait, your Civic has rear axles???

;)

Sucks to hear though bro. How does one bend an axle by applying the brakes though?
 

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Wait, your Civic has rear axles???

;)

Sucks to hear though bro. How does one bend an axle by applying the brakes though?
one word, "chevy"
 

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Wait, your Civic has rear axles???

;)

Sucks to hear though bro. How does one bend an axle by applying the brakes though?
thats what im trying to figure out. the only thing i can come up with is that since the tires are so heavy and the truck stopped so quick due to the new brakes all the force transfered to the axle? i really dont know...
 

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moral of the story.......don't follow so close that you are forced to slam on your brakes.

na just messin with ya. before you just get it replaced. have the other shop look it over first. the other shop may just be trying to hold you off by telling you that the axle is bent so they dont have to fix their work thinking you wont wanna fix and axle.
 

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Ian... you f**king know all this thread will bring... why do you antagonize?
 

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in most cities in CA it is illegal to ride a bike on the sidewalk
 

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moral of the story.......don't follow so close that you are forced to slam on your brakes.

na just messin with ya. before you just get it replaced. have the other shop look it over first. the other shop may just be trying to hold you off by telling you that the axle is bent so they dont have to fix their work thinking you wont wanna fix and axle.
yeah i was thinking that too...when i called the other shop earlier today thats exactly what they told me. however the guy as merchants who works on my truck all the time really seems like an honest guy. i know that sounds naive but i just feel like hes not the kind of guy that would d*ck me over. and plus, he clearly showed me that the backing plate and brake shoe was bent and then he admitted that he wasnt SURE the axle was bent to, it just looked like it might have been
 

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Solid rear axle, no? Not incredibly familiar with full size Chevys.
If so, that would mean they completely removed the axle itself from the carrier...? Or they're just guessing...
 

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yeah its got a solid rear axle. they sure didnt remove it from anything so i assume they are guessing...merchants doesnt do rear axles thats why i had to take it somewhere else. but they at least paid for the tow
 

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thats what im trying to figure out. the only thing i can come up with is that since the tires are so heavy and the truck stopped so quick due to the new brakes all the force transfered to the axle? i really dont know...
I highly doubt this.

I highly doubt you BENT that axle.

My (smaller) toyota axle with 2 140lb tires strapped to it hasnt bent, and it's been drug over rocks with the whole weight of the rear of the truck on it, it's had the brakes locked on it @ 80mph, and so on.

Do some research and look for yourself if its bent or not. Pull the shafts, take measurements, etc.

Even taking it to a shop to get fixed is a bit dumb IMO. As it's 16-20 bolts after removing the tires to remove the rear axle. It's very straight forward.
 

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I highly doubt this.

I highly doubt you BENT that axle.

My (smaller) toyota axle with 2 140lb tires strapped to it hasnt bent, and it's been drug over rocks with the whole weight of the rear of the truck on it, it's had the brakes locked on it @ 80mph, and so on.

Do some research and look for yourself if its bent or not. Pull the shafts, take measurements, etc.

Even taking it to a shop to get fixed is a bit dumb IMO. As it's 16-20 bolts after removing the tires to remove the rear axle. It's very straight forward.
i dont think i bent it either but i guess i will find out tomorrow. replacing it cant be that straightforward. i read somewhere that the labor for it is either 3 or 6 hours (cant remember which one, i looked up something else too)


edit: so wait, it is possible that i bent the backing plate without the axle being bent? i mean i dont see why this wouldnt be possible but i just need some confirmation here so maybe there will be some hope for me afterall
 

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if there was enough torque going through the drivetrain when you slammed the brakes, it could have very well twisted or bent the axleshaft.... sounds like there was some extreme torque goin on if you managed to bend the hub of the axle.
does that truck have a locker in it?
i know the bigger tires dont help either, since more rubber hittin the pavement means more stress on the axle.
 

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i dont think i bent it either but i guess i will find out tomorrow. replacing it cant be that straightforward. i read somewhere that the labor for it is either 3 or 6 hours (cant remember which one, i looked up something else too)


edit: so wait, it is possible that i bent the backing plate without the axle being bent? i mean i dont see why this wouldnt be possible but i just need some confirmation here so maybe there will be some hope for me afterall
Yes, my backing plate on my axle in my truck is mangled (again, from being drug across/into rocks) but the axle itself is still straight.

Is it possible to bend an axle? YES. Is it likely in your case? No.

I'm not 100% familiar as to what type of axle you have in the rear of that thing, but im about 90% sure it's full floating, which means that your backing plate isnt even connected to the shaft itself via bearing or anything like my toyota axle is.

thadoggma, lockers and tq numbers aren't a standing argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzk5IMZ11zY

1372.12 crawl ratio, a toyota 4cyl 3rz (which was swapped into the truck) does about 185-190WTQ on stock gearing. Through math/equations this would put it at well over 2500 wtq in that crawl ratio without any issues.




My point here, it is EXTREMELY rare to bend a shaft when wheeling, and beating hard on a truck. I've NEVER heard of one bending on the street. Especially under braking.
 

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Ian... you f**king know all this thread will bring... why do you antagonize?
because there's actually idiots out there that will respond exactly the way he wants them to. He laughs at them like I sit back and laugh at him. :lol:
 

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because there's actually idiots out there that will respond exactly the way he wants them to. He laughs at them like I sit back and laugh at him. :lol:
i wasnt trying to stir up anything with this thread...you think i made this whole story up?
 


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