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[Robo]

Well i have completed suspension and looks and now its time for the engine. Ive got the wonderful D-series to work with, a 96 dx engine Can a d series even get close to running low 13's with spending 1k or so or should i just swap her for something? I read about b18's all the time and never see any d stuff so i assume they are pretty worthless. but i swap would be much more labor so im just wondering if a d can get any ass for low buck, i could afford a turbo but have red they do little for the D. lemme know what u think.

 

[DirtyD]

ummm, you're not going to come close to 13s with only a thousand unless you do some SERIOUS looking around for parts for your custom turbo setup which would also be unreliable

 

[Robo]

whats a swap run money isnt an issue i just wanted a price range dude, as in swap vs. turbo or interal change on stock D engine

 

[yoman793]

13's! hah not with our little d15. you can run decent for bout a grand if you like nitrous. i got AEM cold air, dc sports header, and apex-i N1 exhuast and spent bout $820 for all that. with the B&M i just won, the g-tech puts me in at 15's. and that is sorta accurate. the g-tech meter is supposed to be correct up too a few .10's

 

[Robo]

really ive got cold air and exhaust but never really bothered to test the 1/4 because i knew it wouldnt be great, beat an auto v6 mustang lol but i duno id like to finda way to hit 13's. well i know u can but no nos for me and no more than 2.5 k or so

 

[mike5]

whats a swap run money isnt an issue i just wanted a price range dude, as in swap vs. turbo or interal change on stock D engine

swap vs. turbo?
well swap is much more $, but getting a kit for that engine is gona be tough if there even is any
so ud have to do a custom turbo, and i dotn know how much u know to build that its a lot of labour and effort...on top of that it would cost qutie a bit
i suggest a swap, any b series is good, b18 preferably, and with that alone ud be running 14s
if u want to turbo, it shouldnt be a problem from there because there a plenty of kits for b-series motors, and that will get u into ur 13s

 

[Robo]

ya but whats a swap run man? id diy probably, ive got friends who do it so thad save some money, i thought they were in the 4k range or so

 

[DirtyD]

swap vs. turbo?
well swap is much more $, but getting a kit for that engine is gona be tough if there even is any
so ud have to do a custom turbo, and i dotn know how much u know to build that its a lot of labour and effort...on top of that it would cost qutie a bit

wrong, there is quite a few kits out there for any d but seeing as how most of those kits will put you well above 2500, you'd probably want to lean towards a custom setup. Also, custom setups for your D can be pretty cheap, check out www.homemadeturbo.com . I've heard of 300 dollar setups but that is what gets you the nickname timebomb.

 

[DirtyD]

ya but whats a swap run man? id diy probably, ive got friends who do it so thad save some money, i thought they were in the 4k range or so

yea they will all pretty much run you about that, unless you swapped in a d16y8 from an EX. You can find one along with tranny for about 600 usually. That way you will start off with VTEC and few extra horses.

 

[islander27]

turbo!! vrooom

 

[doug piston]

my swap was 2500 from hmo. i love it. all misc shiz and other stuff total was about 3500. di the swap myself and replaced alot of parts with new oem stuff. such as belts, water pump, mounts, aem short ram intake, dc headers, dc short shifter, and a magnaflow cat back, and a new cat. not to bad of a price. next up is turbo'in the damn thing

 

[Robo]

nice dude that sound reasonable, what are u running now?

 

[DirtyD]

my swap was 2500 from hmo. i love it. all misc shiz and other stuff total was about 3500. di the swap myself and replaced alot of parts with new oem stuff. such as belts, water pump, mounts, aem short ram intake, dc headers, dc short shifter, and a magnaflow cat back, and a new cat. not to bad of a price. next up is turbo'in the damn thing

guess that header was a waste of money eh?

that sucks, I always feel bad for people when they buy a 400 dollar header and then decide they wont need it anymore. Thats why when you start modding your car you need to have a goal.

 

[vandynamics]

the need for speed,
is a need indeed,
but the best way,
is NOT A D!!!!

sorry, it was like, i donno.....

please disregard this whole post. thank you


-cory

 

[neandercris]

the need for speed,
is a need indeed,
but the best way,
is NOT A D!!!!

sorry, it was like, i donno.....

please disregard this whole post. thank you


-cory

what the

 

[Robo]

ive heard some civics around here with headers an i think b18s and they sound like s**t, i dunno y but my exhaust is nice and deep and never cracks, thats another thing im worried about with a b18, sound is important to me......

 

[doug piston]

it wasnt a waste of money nor was the cold air intake. i get stuff for super cheap. just needed somethin to get the car driveable. i have know idea what im runnin but i do know it could be quicker. hence the choice of a turbo

 

[doug piston]

also it sounds ok with the header on

 

[SeanMc300]

Well i have completed suspension and looks and now its time for the engine. Ive got the wonderful D-series to work with, a 96 dx engine Can a d series even get close to running low 13's with spending 1k or so or should i just swap her for something? I read about b18's all the time and never see any d stuff so i assume they are pretty worthless. but i swap would be much more labor so im just wondering if a d can get any ass for low buck, i could afford a turbo but have red they do little for the D. lemme know what u think.

yes, d's can get into low 13's for a grand and so can a b series. but that depends on alot of things. im not gonna get into it, cuz itll be way too long. but any d and any b CANNOT make it into lw 13's with 1k. turbo does little for the d?? kid, get your head straight. ive SEEN turbo d's beat a itr swap with i/h/e (in a cx). oh, and the kit he put together, cost him only 900 bucks. dont doubt the lil d, its the little motor that could.

low buck, 13 sec set up

ihi rhb5 turbo
450cc injectors
afc hack
mx6 / probe intercooler
255lph fuel pump
boost controller set at 10psi

done, there ya go. ofcourse youll need charge pipes, tubular manifold, down pipe, and resistor box, oil lines, vacuum lines, tapped oil pan. this is if you wanna go kinda low buck, to go lower, get a fmu and missing link....this way youll also NOT need the larger injectors or the fuel pump, but a high pressure inline booster.

edit: just read you post on spending no more than 2.5k. well you can swap a b16 for that, or you cn turbo your d pretty well. and if you go for the b16, congrats, you just choose to go slower. with 2.5 k you can do

garret t3/to4e (sized at around 57 trim with .48 a/r) new turbo
love fab or full-race equal length mani
custom 2.5 inch dp
johnnyracecar or pwr intercooler
450cc injectors
uberdata (free hondata, but you gotta pay to tune it)
boost set at 10psi with boost controller

this will be a more "reliable, better, quality" kit than the one i mentioned above. still, you will need fuel pump, charge pipes, guages, turbo timer, resistor box (only if dsm injectors are used) if i had 2.5k, id go turbo...and this route.

wow that was long....

 

[DirtyD]

13's! hah not with our little d15. you can run decent for bout a grand if you like nitrous. i got AEM cold air, dc sports header, and apex-i N1 exhuast and spent bout $820 for all that. with the B&M i just won, the g-tech puts me in at 15's. and that is sorta accurate. the g-tech meter is supposed to be correct up too a few .10's

I just read this, I doubt you'd be in the 15s, I would seriously doubt it.