Easy HP Gains

[SeanMc300]

i concur. i/h/e on a d16....sorry bud, your g-tech must not be set up correctly. you know what the g stands for, GAY. thats the biggest waste of money. Take that money and buy something worth while.

 

[DirtyD]

i concur. i/h/e on a d16....sorry bud, your g-tech must not be set up correctly. you know what the g stands for, GAY. thats the biggest waste of money. Take that money and buy something worth while.

exactamundo

 

[y2raf]

I saw a video of a 91 hatch with a d15 with the v-tech and custom turbo head on it doing 12's. But the question is HOW MUCH BOOST CAN YOU PUT INTO A D15 before you blow it. People say 8psi, others say 10 psi, what would be the right amount of boost just enought to power a D15 with 150,000 miles one it bot now to blow it.????

 

[hooked_on4]

I read an article way back about a guy who had a few mods, the biggest being a gude head kit, it was a d16z6 but he ran 13's w/stock intake. He dynoed every part to garauntee results, he said he could duplicate it for around $1500 he said the most important concern is compresion ratio. This is all off top of my head i can't find that article in my stacks of magazines.

 

[nd4sped]

Well i have completed suspension and looks and now its time for the engine. Ive got the wonderful D-series to work with, a 96 dx engine Can a d series even get close to running low 13's with spending 1k or so or should i just swap her for something? I read about b18's all the time and never see any d stuff so i assume they are pretty worthless. but i swap would be much more labor so im just wondering if a d can get any ass for low buck, i could afford a turbo but have red they do little for the D. lemme know what u think.

You wont even be able to get into the mid 15's with what you got with just $1k.

Get a B, H or even a K series engine then start talking about 13's after spening a few grand.

 

[doug piston]

speed=money, money=speed


its gonna cost you no matter what you do

 

[Inigo Montoya]

yes, d's can get into low 13's for a grand and so can a b series. but that depends on alot of things. im not gonna get into it, cuz itll be way too long. but any d and any b CANNOT make it into lw 13's with 1k. turbo does little for the d?? kid, get your head straight. ive SEEN turbo d's beat a itr swap with i/h/e (in a cx). oh, and the kit he put together, cost him only 900 bucks. dont doubt the lil d, its the little motor that could.

low buck, 13 sec set up

ihi rhb5 turbo
450cc injectors
afc hack
mx6 / probe intercooler
255lph fuel pump
boost controller set at 10psi

done, there ya go. ofcourse youll need charge pipes, tubular manifold, down pipe, and resistor box, oil lines, vacuum lines, tapped oil pan. this is if you wanna go kinda low buck, to go lower, get a fmu and missing link....this way youll also NOT need the larger injectors or the fuel pump, but a high pressure inline booster.

edit: just read you post on spending no more than 2.5k. well you can swap a b16 for that, or you cn turbo your d pretty well. and if you go for the b16, congrats, you just choose to go slower. with 2.5 k you can do

garret t3/to4e (sized at around 57 trim with .48 a/r) new turbo
love fab or full-race equal length mani
custom 2.5 inch dp
johnnyracecar or pwr intercooler
450cc injectors
uberdata (free hondata, but you gotta pay to tune it)
boost set at 10psi with boost controller

this will be a more "reliable, better, quality" kit than the one i mentioned above. still, you will need fuel pump, charge pipes, guages, turbo timer, resistor box (only if dsm injectors are used) if i had 2.5k, id go turbo...and this route.

wow that was long....

Yay we actually have an informed person here Har har har

Anyhow..heres what I would recommend for a D turbo

Turbo: GARRETT T3/TO4E
Tial 38 mm external wastegate
from CheapTurbo.com
for 779 shipped

Hx manifold from junkyard = under 50
Love Fab Manifold (Guaranteed for life) = 799 shipped (lovefab.com)

JohnnyRaceCar IC = 240 shipped (johnnyracecar.com)

BoV... PeakBoost 119 from cheapturbo.com

Uberdata.. I can't remember how much it costs. If you know what you're doing, it's not that hard to tune. They also have a message board explaining everything

Buy your pipes from jcwhitney.com... they have all sizes of mandrel bent tubing that you just need to cut and weld together

Buy a Quafe for 799

I guarantee with good tuning and a decent motor, you will be pushing at least 280 whp on stock internals. (Not that I would recommend it)

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I read an article way back about a guy who had a few mods, the biggest being a gude head kit, it was a d16z6 but he ran 13's w/stock intake. He dynoed every part to garauntee results, he said he could duplicate it for around $1500 he said the most important concern is compresion ratio. This is all off top of my head i can't find that article in my stacks of magazines.

GUDE pwns me. Very good.. but im not sure if id ever go NA with a SOHC

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I saw a video of a 91 hatch with a d15 with the v-tech and custom turbo head on it doing 12's. But the question is HOW MUCH BOOST CAN YOU PUT INTO A D15 before you blow it. People say 8psi, others say 10 psi, what would be the right amount of boost just enought to power a D15 with 150,000 miles one it bot now to blow it.????

psi is a biproduct which many many many uninformed (read ricers) think what causes problem with motors. In reality, it is tuning (pre-detonation = grenade) and the rods, pistons, and cylinder walls.. HP causes these to break

 

[Inigo Montoya]

ive heard some civics around here with headers an i think b18s and they sound like s**t, i dunno y but my exhaust is nice and deep and never cracks, thats another thing im worried about with a b18, sound is important to me......

headers huh?

 

[SeanMc300]

psi is a biproduct which many many many uninformed (read ricers) think what causes problem with motors. In reality, it is tuning (pre-detonation = grenade) and the rods, pistons, and cylinder walls.. HP causes these to break

correct. people think that 10 psi on a t25 will be the same as 10psi on a SC 61. they are kinda right, but not. true, both turbos are pushing 10psi, but its the amount of air the SC 61 flows that will make the bigger hp. you strap a sc61 on a stock d16 at 10psi, youll get more hp than a t25 on a d16 at 10psi. while the t25 @ 10psi wont blow the motor, the sc61 @ 10psi will.

 

[scottyfordy]

There are people out there, not exactly Honda owners, who have cars running in the elevens after less then a thousand in modifications. Junkyards, duct-tape, and rusted turbos can go a long way.

 

[blackoutcivic]

spend 1000 on a super cool custom turbo and boost at 60 psi and you will hit 13's....nah jus playin - there is no way you will hit 13's with 1000bucks and a dx motor-- if ur looking to reach 13's without nitrous then you def need to swap-- turbo will just f**k up in the long run lets face the facts unless you got $$ and can afford to maintain it and tune like crazy

 

[SeanMc300]

^^^ wrong. with a 1000 i bet you he could run 13's, not low or mid...but high like 13.9999999. depending on driver and who makes the kit for him.

 

[edhgreatone]

^^^ wrong. with a 1000 i bet you he could run 13's, not low or mid...but high like 13.9999999. depending on driver and who makes the kit for him.

neven in a million years

 

[SeanMc300]

never??? wow you need to learn.

 

[edhgreatone]

yea i guess its just that easy to go from a 17 second car to a 13 second car with $1,000... good luck with that... i mean if it was that easy i guess we'd all be doing it

 

[DirtyD]

yea i guess its just that easy to go from a 17 second car to a 13 second car with $1,000... good luck with that... i mean if it was that easy i guess we'd all be doing it

no there's always the dumbass ricers like you who don't know s**t about turbo setups and let companys like greddy charge you 300% of what the kit is worth just for a name. Open your eyes and do some research.

 

[Ninefivejiggaja]

guess that header was a waste of money eh?

that sucks, I always feel bad for people when they buy a 400 dollar header and then decide they wont need it anymore. Thats why when you start modding your car you need to have a goal.

i've had my goals shot down drastically but i have a new goal and it is good.