Eclipse Amps Need Help!
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The SQ out of eclipses amps are worth it IMHO.snoopy316 said:
but there are other amps that perform a bit more for your money.
don't mind my shameless zapco plug...
but it's true, they're comparable in price but zapcos will outperform the eclipse. yes, they make nice amps, I know, but dollar for dollar you could find something around the same price that's going to perform better.
it just depends on how picky you are.
don't mind my shameless zapco plug...
but it's true, they're comparable in price but zapcos will outperform the eclipse. yes, they make nice amps, I know, but dollar for dollar you could find something around the same price that's going to perform better.it just depends on how picky you are.
Would this be a good eclipse amp to power my subs? Click on the Link. Will this be good? Let me know what you all think. Especially you snoop since you seem to know your stuff.
WKHCivic said:
To make things a little more clear this is the link. http://www.eclipse-web.com/amp/da6213.html
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OK follow me here, This is why I dont like Eclipse.
The amp in question is advertised as a full range class D.
That is a lie, by design a class D is only to drive subs and can not reproduce a fuul frequency because of its switching technology. It is almost always a two ohm mono stable amp.
The amp eclipse is showing is just a plain old two chanell. And lying about the specs.
In order to run 3 woofers you need a minimum of a 2 ohm mono amp, wired to 3 8 ohm woofers or dual 4 ohm woofers. Since you are looking at the lower power handling woofer I would go with the 8 ohm woofer.
The amp that you need to buy if you have to go with eclipse it the DA 7122 costing you $799.99 to get a 1000 watts into 2 ohms kinda spendy if you ask me.
if you haven't got the subs already and want to run three subs I would suggest this set up for you and your wallet
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=16
and get a memphis st-500 off of e bay.
If you have the woofers already then get a Memphis st-1000 off of e bay. Great solid amp at half the price (if you get it off e bay)
I put more faith in memphis amps then I do Eclipse amps
OK follow me here, This is why I dont like Eclipse.
The amp in question is advertised as a full range class D.
That is a lie, by design a class D is only to drive subs and can not reproduce a fuul frequency because of its switching technology. It is almost always a two ohm mono stable amp.
The amp eclipse is showing is just a plain old two chanell. And lying about the specs.
In order to run 3 woofers you need a minimum of a 2 ohm mono amp, wired to 3 8 ohm woofers or dual 4 ohm woofers. Since you are looking at the lower power handling woofer I would go with the 8 ohm woofer.
The amp that you need to buy if you have to go with eclipse it the DA 7122 costing you $799.99 to get a 1000 watts into 2 ohms kinda spendy if you ask me.
if you haven't got the subs already and want to run three subs I would suggest this set up for you and your wallet
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=16
and get a memphis st-500 off of e bay.
If you have the woofers already then get a Memphis st-1000 off of e bay. Great solid amp at half the price (if you get it off e bay)
I put more faith in memphis amps then I do Eclipse amps
So poking around Eclipse... the only thing close is the DA6213... one, it's 600 bucks, and you'd be running it in stereo instead of bridged mono.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Memphis-500-watt-Mono-Amplifier-Amp-500D_W0QQitemZ5813455043QQcategoryZ18797QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
That is a yummy amp at a yummy price. We had a ST1000D and that thing was the s**t in a little package. So here's the 500 watter.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Memphis-500-watt-Mono-Amplifier-Amp-500D_W0QQitemZ5813455043QQcategoryZ18797QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
That is a yummy amp at a yummy price. We had a ST1000D and that thing was the s**t in a little package. So here's the 500 watter.
Since this amp or amps as the fact may be are only going to be pushing low frequency, sound quality isn't of much importance. Afterall, it's about moving air at that end of the frequency range. If an amp is going to be pushing some tweeters, mid-bass and so on, then sound quality is going to matter. Incidentally, sound quality is going to matter as much as the quality of the audio signal that originates from the head unit.HP Civic 2 said:
Actually there are amps geared towards sq in bass. Damping factor is the amps ability to control the woofer in both directions, giving it a cleaner hit and higher sq in the bass domain. Not all bass is synthisized. To say sq doesnt matter in bass is kinda ridiculous.eg6_310 said:
I am still confused.
Questions:
1. Can i run three subs with and eclipse amp?
2. Which amp do i need for 2 subs the DA 6213 or DA 7122?
3. If i can fun 3 subs which amp do i need the DA 6213 or DA 7122?
If someone could please clear this up for me it would be greatly appreciated. Snoopy i really trust you so i would like your input.
Questions:
1. Can i run three subs with and eclipse amp?
2. Which amp do i need for 2 subs the DA 6213 or DA 7122?
3. If i can fun 3 subs which amp do i need the DA 6213 or DA 7122?
If someone could please clear this up for me it would be greatly appreciated. Snoopy i really trust you so i would like your input.
OK in my opinion the eclipse amps are not worth it. You have to get a $799.99 amp to run three subs but if you have to have them the 7122 will run three subs
The 6213 will do for two.
I would really take a look into Memphis amps if you ask me. They are just as good
The 6213 will do for two.
I would really take a look into Memphis amps if you ask me. They are just as good
That is if you are building a SQ competiton level sound system. The average ear on the average consumer isn't trained to notice the subtle differences coming out of the front stage let alone their subs. Hell, look at the most of the systems running in people's cars. Ordinary amps (a la Rockwood, MA Audio or some other crap like that), ordinary 3-way speakers with foam surrounds, ordinary subs, etc. You aren't going to find cars running premier head units, multiple component speakers (in the right locations, mind you), multiple JL W8s or competiton level amps / sound processors (Alpine F-1 for example). Hell, most people have no clue at all, taking the advice of most audio shops who are into just getting s**t out the door, especially more so since everyone's so freakin cheap. I'd say 99% of people out there are happy with a MDF box with carpeting on it. So how ridiculous is my statement based on all of this?snoopy316 said:Actually there are amps geared towards sq in bass. Damping factor is the amps ability to control the woofer in both directions, giving it a cleaner hit and higher sq in the bass domain. Not all bass is synthisized. To say sq doesnt matter in bass is kinda ridiculous.
The average ear of the consumer will hear it if the salesperson takes thier time to demo and show the difference. Even now I consider JL the highest range of mediocre speaker.
People do buy MA Audio and rockwood even Audiobahn because they are cheap and dont know any better.
But you dont have to have a bunch of processors to get good sound. Or a three way component system. F1 status is good stuff but you dont need it to get great sound. Hell I would take a high end McIntosh deck before I took the F1 status. And dont get me wrong I love alpine but the F1 status is now geared to perfect sonic surround sound reproduction in a vehicle.
People do buy MA Audio and rockwood even Audiobahn because they are cheap and dont know any better.
But you dont have to have a bunch of processors to get good sound. Or a three way component system. F1 status is good stuff but you dont need it to get great sound. Hell I would take a high end McIntosh deck before I took the F1 status. And dont get me wrong I love alpine but the F1 status is now geared to perfect sonic surround sound reproduction in a vehicle.