Ok, here's my situation. I have a 99 civic Si, and all i have done to it is add an AEM cold air intake,and a Skunk2 exhaust. Now.... I want to have a nice set up under the hood, kinda like create my own turbo kit, not just buy one that's already put together. By the way I drive this car in a daily basis. Im very inexperienced about this stuff, but i'm a big fan of hondas and acuras and i want to learn. Anyways, which is the best turbo in the market for an Si? and from there what would be a very good set up for it? intercooler, cam gears, fuel rails, etc. I'm looking for power and at the same time when someone looks under my hood i want them to say: damn, thats a nice set up, Not... Oh, i got that same exact set up. i want to beat other Sis with a regular turbo set up. Do u know what im trying to say?
I need advise from experienced people
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that sucks...bought a CAI and now u wanna boost...hey, sell it to seanjohn1802. anyways...about the turbo info
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you can still use the filter off you cai for a turbo app
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nice gauges in your sig man, i got a guy wanting to sell me a set of 3 faze gauges for $100.. that a good deal?
You could use the pipe from the CAI for part of the charge piping too, so not all is lost.
BTW, smart decision going with a custom set up, you will save LOTS. As far is what you should buy, it's really a matter of personal preference. Turbo size depends on where you want the power, and whether you want the car to be a balls to the wall drag machine, or you want some streetable power. For your cams, you should buy a set of turbo cams(skunk2 makes a nice set), and cam gears it really doesnt matter. For your fuel system, get a high pressure fuel pump, a fuel rail, and some larger injectors. I bought a DC Sports fuel rail, but brands really dont matter. For my injectors I got some 450cc ones off of an eclipse. You may also want to do some internals (only needed for high boost) such as forged pistons and rods.
BTW, smart decision going with a custom set up, you will save LOTS. As far is what you should buy, it's really a matter of personal preference. Turbo size depends on where you want the power, and whether you want the car to be a balls to the wall drag machine, or you want some streetable power. For your cams, you should buy a set of turbo cams(skunk2 makes a nice set), and cam gears it really doesnt matter. For your fuel system, get a high pressure fuel pump, a fuel rail, and some larger injectors. I bought a DC Sports fuel rail, but brands really dont matter. For my injectors I got some 450cc ones off of an eclipse. You may also want to do some internals (only needed for high boost) such as forged pistons and rods.
Ok.... like i said before, im new to this, and thats why i ask questions, i didnt know i couldnt use my cold air intake with a turbo application. Why not? what kinda intake am i supposed to use? Damn, i'm glad i asked. I guess is better to be ignorant for a minute than to be one forever. thank u guys
You cant use the CAI because the turbo sucks in the air. Then the air is run through your intercooler and up to the intake manifold. And since the turbo sits down under the turbo manifold, the air has to be taken in somewhere different from where your CAI gets it from.
Damn........ i never noticed that, it does make sense though. Thank you very much for the explanation Sound Streamin.
What about a intake manifold, can i upgrade that before getting the turbo? or would that be a waste of money? and.... does anybody knows anything about the Venom 400 control module? does that thing works?
What about a intake manifold, can i upgrade that before getting the turbo? or would that be a waste of money? and.... does anybody knows anything about the Venom 400 control module? does that thing works?
Wouldn't be a waste of money. With a turbo you are flowing a hell of a lot more air, so it would be a good idea.
how much money you have? what kind of driving you gonna do? do you want fast spool, or all out top end high hp?? you gonna drag race? auto-x?
what i suggest after answering those is ask questions, ask questions, ask questions...do research, do research, do research, read, read, read, read....after about 6 months of asking questions, saving money, doing research, reading...then start buying.
what i suggest after answering those is ask questions, ask questions, ask questions...do research, do research, do research, read, read, read, read....after about 6 months of asking questions, saving money, doing research, reading...then start buying.
I'm planning on spending around $5000 under the hood (is that enough?) i dont know, if i can spend a little less and have a kick ass set up then it'll be great, and if thats not enough money to get something decent then i guess i'll end up getting an ok set up. I gotta take the highway to go anywhere where i live, so im gonna be doing a lot of highway driving. I think i would go with top end hp. Im not gonna drag race, maybe once in a while I'll take it to a track. Thanks for ur help, trust me i'll keep asking questions til i decide what im gonna get.
5000 is a lot for a turbo setup, if you know what you are doing you can have a nice setup for under a grand. I think it's SeanMc who is doing a turbo setup, he said he's only spent 250 and is half way done. If you want more higher end power you should be looking for a larger turbo.
^^damn right....if were you...since you do have 5000 already, why not get about 1 grand more...then you can go to www.full-race.com and get their kit (intercooler, dp, turbo, manifold only) thats 4 grand, hondata, custom charge pipes, guages, lines, oil pan, blah blah...you shoud be set with about 6-7 grand.
friend of mine from hondaswap is doing the full race kit on his FULLy built gsr motor, should be seeing around 450whp.
friend of mine from hondaswap is doing the full race kit on his FULLy built gsr motor, should be seeing around 450whp.
I've spent about 2000 CDN on my custom set-up so far. I could do it for way cheaper, but even though Im doing custom I'm still buying high quality s**t(that includes exhaust and other things I've bought that arnt essential), so it ends up costing more. Still saving money over a prefab tho.
Hey that sounds great Sound Streamin, are you buying everything new or used? And how much more u think u gonna spend before u finish ur set up? $2000 sounds very good, specially for high quality stuff. By the way.... for people that want a custom set up, whats a good website to buy just the turbo itself? not the whole kit.
Don't forget, suspension, and brakes to upgrade. Also a LSD is a nice investment too. Quaife all the way.
Quaife = $799
Brakes = $600
Suspension = $800 (Tein SS)
Hondata 200b = $600+ after tuning
GT28rs = $1,100 <== one of the best turbo's out there. Quick spool, capable of 400+ hp, and makes power all the way through
Turbo Manifold = $799
IC = $600
Piping varies, but will be somewhere between 400 and 1000 depending on if you get a high flow cat and 3" mandrel.
Fuel pump, injectors, rail = $300 or somewhere there abouts
And you are most likely going to be paying someone to put all of these goodies on.
Engine:
Rods/Pistons = $800
Sleeved = $800 (not necessary, but a good idea)
Headgasket = talk to a shop
Intake Manifold = varies per application
Camshaft, Cams, Valve springs, retainers.... don't even know.
And youre going to be paying for this engine work.
Probably would want to beef up the axles too.
Now this car would be putting down 400 whp no problem, would be able to drive daily, look good, and have no corners cut. (Although I probably forgot something)
Now the real question is, can you drive a 400whp car? Or do you even need that much power? And are you ready to drop that much cash into a civic?
If you don't want the whole bling factor, you could most definitely put together a custom kit for 1,500-2,000 that would run any other similar priced kit there is today. Junkyard shopping, classifieds, DSMTrader... all your new friends
Quaife = $799
Brakes = $600
Suspension = $800 (Tein SS)
Hondata 200b = $600+ after tuning
GT28rs = $1,100 <== one of the best turbo's out there. Quick spool, capable of 400+ hp, and makes power all the way through
Turbo Manifold = $799
IC = $600
Piping varies, but will be somewhere between 400 and 1000 depending on if you get a high flow cat and 3" mandrel.
Fuel pump, injectors, rail = $300 or somewhere there abouts
And you are most likely going to be paying someone to put all of these goodies on.
Engine:
Rods/Pistons = $800
Sleeved = $800 (not necessary, but a good idea)
Headgasket = talk to a shop
Intake Manifold = varies per application
Camshaft, Cams, Valve springs, retainers.... don't even know.
And youre going to be paying for this engine work.
Probably would want to beef up the axles too.
Now this car would be putting down 400 whp no problem, would be able to drive daily, look good, and have no corners cut. (Although I probably forgot something)
Now the real question is, can you drive a 400whp car? Or do you even need that much power? And are you ready to drop that much cash into a civic?
If you don't want the whole bling factor, you could most definitely put together a custom kit for 1,500-2,000 that would run any other similar priced kit there is today. Junkyard shopping, classifieds, DSMTrader... all your new friends
injectors alone will cost close to 300, fuel pump is about 150-200, fuel rail will be around 100. a good intake mani is a Edlebrock manifold, probably upwards of 500. cams, cam gears, valvesprings & retainers will cost quite a bit...in the area of 1000 or so.
for brakes, get a set of hawk hp pads and brembo blank rotors....they will work perfectly fine on your car for daily driven and for the occasional auto-x, also some goodridge ss lines.
if you are going to go tein, get the pillow ball mounts.
I have a friend over at www.hondaswap.com doing a FULL build on a gsr motor, with the www.full-race.com kit, and alot of other high quality pieces, the motor has cost him upwards of 10k.
for brakes, get a set of hawk hp pads and brembo blank rotors....they will work perfectly fine on your car for daily driven and for the occasional auto-x, also some goodridge ss lines.
if you are going to go tein, get the pillow ball mounts.
I have a friend over at www.hondaswap.com doing a FULL build on a gsr motor, with the www.full-race.com kit, and alot of other high quality pieces, the motor has cost him upwards of 10k.
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Thats a nice turbo setup but theres no way in hell thats all you would need.... he would have to get the whole motor re-built to make that work for the kinda HP's your talkin about... and the person on Hondaswap that has that didnt he get his head done at a place and block from another? spending more like 10grand to make that work... for 5 grand you could get a smaller turbo and just boost to a max of like 5-8 psi and be good enough for now until u wanna rebuild your motor to handle high boost
the blah blah was to imply more....mostly regarding the internal parts, things one should know. i definately downplayed that price in your quote there wigger. its more towards....8grand. with the built internals and such, thats around 10grand.
there was a reason why i said FULLY... i dont know if he did get the head and block from other places, i couldnt tell you the specifics.
there was a reason why i said FULLY... i dont know if he did get the head and block from other places, i couldnt tell you the specifics.
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BAH! building a monster civic isnt worth 8 freaking grand. if you're going to go that route, sell the civic, buy a 1g dsm, spend 3 grand and run 10's and since it's 1g there's no crankwalk issue.
why spend 8 grand + on an econobox civic???
why spend 8 grand + on an econobox civic???