oh there is domestic rice there is no arguement to that, the truth is civics started the rice world, some can look good and be decent but not a lot actually pull it off, i am just interested in the ones that are built for speed not for the extra weight of the body kits or other crap that uglies them up lol...handlebarsfsr said:excuse me? oh yea your the domestic guy, all the sites you visit say anyone who doesnt own an "american car" is a ricer. funny how most of our cars have more american parts and are built by more american workers than most "domestics" are.