is a turbo kit really going to cost $5000

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after reading the stickies, and tons of right ups...it sounds like if i wanted to boost my stock 95 civic Si HB, with the d16y6, or d16z6 what ever the stock motor is....im going ot have to get a tubro kit say around $2800 then im goign to have to spend a arm and leg just so i wont run to lean and blow apart my motor...i mean everyone from preludepower has put a turbo on there preludes and after a month they no longer run cas they blow them up....i had nitrous on my crx and i know what running lean does to honda very shorty you have a hole in the piston.....but i need my civic for a daily driver and stuff....should i just enjoy it the way it is or is there a way to make it reliable for a long time? i know fuel is a big factor not lean, but not rich all the time about 16-17:1 right ? after reading all the stuff you need to do it sounds like its going to cost another $2400
 

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Highly doubtful. First of all, what kit are you planning on purchasing? If you plan on having a daily driver, it would be wise to stick with a smaller turbo running on less boost. In all honesty, people will debate this, but, GReddy makes a good turbo for the d16z6. It's a small turbo that provides a sufficient boost in power and will remain reliable. How much will everything cost total? I'd estimate about $3-3.5k
 


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pretty sure you want to be around 11-12 at wot. fuel management wont cost an arm and a leg. itll cost you around 1000.
 

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Hey absolutd16 , do you have a greddy turbo in youre civic???
 


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IMO...turbo's are pointless on a daily driven car!! What the hell would you use it for?? To show your faster than a stock car down Main St. Waste of money!
 

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99cleanCIVICex said:
Hey absolutd16 , do you have a greddy turbo in youre civic???
I was planning on it when I was 17, but my parents killed that idea...
 

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Stock D16y8, F-Max kit, 197whp, 2 years no problems, cost of $2,800.00

$5,000.00 is a far cry, you could put a kit on then build the bottom end easily w/ that amount of $.

Get a kit for like $3k and get a dual stage boost controller, run around 6-8psi daily and flip the switch when you need that little extra boost craze that everyone gets!!!

Make sure you do some mad research on what a turbo does to your engine and what it can do to your engine, realize all aspects before you decide to boost and have the wrong set up and blow.......
 

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matts2ksi said:
IMO...turbo's are pointless on a daily driven car!! What the hell would you use it for?? To show your faster than a stock car down Main St. Waste of money!
so by your logic, whats the point of doing anything your daily driven civic then huh? i mean whats the point of doing i/h/e and some internal work on your daily driven civic, i dunno maybe its because what people LIKE TO DO! alot of people race their daily driven car at auto-x's and and the dragway. you are dumb, you need to be shot.
 

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the stock motor is the d16z6 and u can get a greddy kit for 1500 and the for another 1500 u can complete the kit for better daily driver(fuel management, intercooler and what not) so id say 3000 would do jus fine
 

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matts2ksi said:
IMO...turbo's are pointless on a daily driven car!! What the hell would you use it for?? To show your faster than a stock car down Main St. Waste of money!
go put on some altezza's or something.

You can get a full "kit" that will produce 200whp for 1,200. Just gotta piece it together and shop around.

For 5g's, you will be pushing above 300 whp and you'd be a dumbass to go with a "kit". You need to read more (like I suggest to everyone who wants turbo).

turbod16.com
homemadeturbo.com

good starting points.
 

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turbowhat_n_dat said:
For 5k you should easily be able to get what you need to put down serious numbers everywhere.

Build a custom turbo set up $1500.00 complete---
fuel set up/injectors/turbo/gate/bov/piping/manifold/intercooler/fuel pump
Full btm end $1000.00 JE pistons/Crower rods/ARP bolts/pins/locks/rings
Full head job $1500.00 custom done with all valves/titanium retainers/dual springs/turbo cams

Cam Gears, dual stage boost controller or electronic version, LSD, clutch, flywheel.....a lot of $

Dont forget a radiator---del sol dual core, water pump, oil pump, t-belt, fuel filter, ARP head studs

+ tuning time and $ for this, approximately 6-10 hours considering its a custom built turbo kit

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1) What custom setup are you going to run for 1,500? A GReddy? Bahaha. The turbo alone is going to be spendy new.

2) Bottom end: Sleeve, tank, honed? Blueprint?

Its always way more than you think. Plus who's going to install it? If you have shop access, take pics lol :P All in all though, you can make some serious power out of Honda engines. Im still waiting for their SOHC i-6 lol :-p

Are you contradicting yourself or did you realize it was true???
 

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Ok, to all that didn't agree with me! I have the I/H/E...so If you want to waste your money on a turbo...take it to the track...burn out the engine!

When you guys grow up and have rent, loans, bills, etc. you'll understand!

And no I don't have altezza's =) dumbasses!

And good luck at the track with just a turbo'd D series!
 

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matts2ksi said:
Ok, to all that didn't agree with me! I have the I/H/E...so If you want to waste your money on a turbo...take it to the track...burn out the engine!

When you guys grow up and have rent, loans, bills, etc. you'll understand!

And no I don't have altezza's =) dumbasses!

And good luck at the track with just a turbo'd D series!
just be quiet and stop embarassing yourself

whats wrong with a turbo d-series? I could easily have a Z6 that would eat any B series alive for under the price of a swap... do some research before you talk dumb s**t

and what is your logic behind every turbo burns out an engine... you are stupid, plain and simple. If a turbo setup is correctly tuned and properly done you can run 8 psi as a daily driver and rarely have to worry about it.
 

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matts2ksi said:
Ok, to all that didn't agree with me! I have the I/H/E...so If you want to waste your money on a turbo...take it to the track...burn out the engine!

When you guys grow up and have rent, loans, bills, etc. you'll understand!

And no I don't have altezza's =) dumbasses!

And good luck at the track with just a turbo'd D series!

Thats some dumb ass s**t, I own a house, have a child, own 3 cars (1 winter, 1 Honda turbo, 1 big block V8) have loans, have all the bills you do, and the etc...I have to assume is credit cards----and that is your own fault for having to use those, 21% interest doesnt impress me enough to have to use that s**t!!!

I've already got a turbo D series, and a completely done ride, not to the satisfaction of the hypocrites on this board, but I dont really give a f**k what they say, there all followers anyway.........

For your information if a turbo burned up a engine why would they use a turbo on 99% of all over the road trucks that turn out 1,000,000 miles or more, not a very logical thing to have on an engine if it burns one out. For 1,000,000 miles (or 1 million) thats damn good on an engine. As for a 4cyl since I'm sure you'll have something to say like thats a big truck I-6, more displacement, larger bores, larger everything, the boost is @ 22-40psi, (200-1200hp/400-3000ft lbs torque) my 4 has run for 2 years with no problems on a 12psi boost.
 

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there are a lot of controversies into building your own kit versus buying a turbo kit... in my opinion you get what you pay for
 

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turbowhat_n_dat said:
That you could actually build a complete custom kit for $1500 and below.........
you can. You can build one for $600. Hell Ive heard of people making some for $300. Granted these are used/junkyarded pieces.

However, it just depends on what your goals are. If you dont care about bling factor, than used the way to go.
 

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edhgreatone said:
there are a lot of controversies into building your own kit versus buying a turbo kit... in my opinion you get what you pay for
I was going to say something mean, but I held myself back ;)

Simply put, what controversy? Frankly I think you're talking out of your ass on that one. If you know what you're doing and are mechanically inclined, you'll be fine.
 

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CarbonCreations said:
I was going to say something mean, but I held myself back ;)

Simply put, what controversy? Frankly I think you're talking out of your ass on that one. If you know what you're doing and are mechanically inclined, you'll be fine.
thats the controversy. stupid people think that pre built is best. those who know better build their own.
 


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