Jezeks build up thread part deuce

postal21

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pardon my newbie interruption. but this discussion about turbo timers makes me wonder.

Since you are putting turbos on your car, why do you have to let it "sit" and cooldown? I understand the "WHY" you are saying this, because it helps the longevity of the parts, but why do you have to do this on the custom turbos as opposed to stock ones that come on other cars? Are the turbos that unreliable that if you are running a daily-driver turboed D, B, or H-series motor that you will have to let your car idle and cooldown everytime you go somewhere? Or do regular turboed stock-cars already do this anyways and Ive never noticed or thought about it.
 

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Stock turboed cars do not. It's not set in stone as to why, but speculation leans toward, shall we say, repair costs.. Kinda like the "service engine soon" light - built-in income for the dealer.. :P

History with turbo cars, for me, has been quite a few replacements of unmodified ffactory turbo cars. In example, my '81 Turbo Trans Am had 3 turbo replacements in the time that I owned it..
My Merkurs (unmodified) have had a couple each, for the most part.. Not to say it's because of no turbo timer, but never the less..

Also, 99.9% of your factory turbo cars have oil lubricated bearings, and water-cooled center housing rotating assembly, or CHRA.. Most aftermarket turbos don't have the water-cooled center section, or have it as an option. Most people opt to pass on the watercooled versions, as there's more "plumbing" entaled in the install.. This watercooling aids in keeping the CHRA temps lower, aiding in avoiding the coaking process, but not eliminating it.. Factory turbo cars usually have some sort of oil cooling or oil temperature balancing to help with temperature issues, as well..

That's kinda it, in a nutshell.. :beer:
 


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interesting. sooo, in other words people need to put the work into the install and get the extra plumbing because in the end it will help prevent some headaches... o_O
 

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or turbo timer.. :P
 


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hey j. you doing anything cool to the valve cover??:D
 

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banzai owned x2....thanks for the backup qwik
 

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oh yea, im really 'owned' - f**kin CC, the same as always...one person that knows somethine and 20 that ride his nuts...

Like i said before, the purpose of a TT is to allow your turbo to cool off and get lubricated properly when you stop the car by feeding it fresh oil!! this is turn, like qwik said saves bearings. Most manufacturers of turbo-charged vehicles recommend idling your car after you get where you're going, for at least 30 seconds - 12 MINUTES IS f**king A WASTE OF TIME!!!!
 

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sweeet.. a fight.. damn, i think im too late tho...
 

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Banzai - wasn't trying to pwn anyone. hell, I've got trouble feeding the ones I already have :P

12 minutes is a bit long, but I've seen 9 minutes before.. and had no problem with letting it time out..
Most turbo timers have an "auto" option, which calculates engine speed, run-time duration, and time in boost, then adjusts the idle time, accordingly.. You can make it more or less sensitive.. Mine is set for "Normal".

Also, if I run across town in a three minute jaunt, and doesn't need the TT run-on, its as simple as a touch of the button and the car will shut off.

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and get off my nuts- they're tender!! :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: j/k
 
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banzai said:
oh yea, im really 'owned' - f**kin CC, the same as always...one person that knows somethine and 20 that ride his nuts...
hey now. lets talk nice about cc.
 

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qwikxr said:
Banzai - wasn't trying to pwn anyone. hell, I've got trouble feeding the ones I already have :P

12 minutes is a bit long, but I've seen 9 minutes before.. and had no problem with letting it time out..
Most turbo timers have an "auto" option, which calculates engine speed, run-time duration, and time in boost, then adjusts the idle time, accordingly.. You can make it more or less sensitive.. Mine is set for "Normal".

Also, if I run across town in a three minute jaunt, and doesn't need the TT run-on, its as simple as a touch of the button and the car will shut off.

no offense to you, you seem to be the only other knowledgable poster here. I've had turbo cars around for awhile, and installed many. No matter how hard i've ripped in mine (till the manifold glows), I've never seen a need to wait a max of like 3 or 4 minutes. I've had the current setup in my car with no TT for a good 2 years and its as strong as ever
 

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oh, and dont worry about jacking jezeks gay build up thread... =p
 

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banzai said:
oh yea, im really 'owned' - f**kin CC, the same as always...one person that knows somethine and 20 that ride his nuts...
probably speaking of me, even though i posted it first right?:roll: bump for jezek and i hope you waste your money on a sick ass turbo timer. i know i will.

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LOL...I love you guys, but especially Banzai....he looks damn sexy in bandanas :rolf: :rolf:
hector said:
hey j. you doing anything cool to the valve cover??:D
I have 2 ideas...I still have to decide.

1. Shave it, paint it wrinkle black....

2. Wrinkle red, like the ATR motors...
 

postal21

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I <3 jezek. Us talking within it, is just a matter of respect for a sweet guy/car. =)
 

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Black is sick ( not how mine would look, but you get the overall "feel" )

 

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where's my old shaved VC pic when i need it.. it was gunmetal gloss and looked sickness. It's in my garage now, since I went with the red wrinkle.. kinda like my peepeetool... :rolf:
 

banzai

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you know you want it like mine...black is the new everything





and you know i look damn good in bandanas
 


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