Yea so today i got my 93 dx auto incpected. i still needed to go to montco for college so i needed a car. so i took my uncles car for the day. i learned to drive stick a little, but of course i told my uncle i definitely knew how to drive it. it is soo much better than my automatic, i want one!!!! hes like about dead too...maybe i'll ask him to give it before he dies or to give it to me in the will. i'll just hint that i love it so much. yea just wanted all you fellow nOOb's that manuals are waayy better.
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wow thats pretty f**ked up dude, waitin for your uncle to die to get his car.........
What's so great about manual transmissions? A clutch? Everyone loves clutch! Everyone who has three legs. Especially how you disengage the trans and you're dead in the water between shifts. Or coming to a stop uphill, that's great! You know what else. Driving in traffic with a manual. Gotta love that. If you mess up, you stall. Yeah that's safe. Say like during panic braking, you stall or hit the wrong pedals. FUN. Then there's people that have to smoke, talk on the cell, and drive at the same time. Try juggling all that with a steering wheel and shifter.
I hate driving behind manual trans cars. I always have to let off the gas when they're shifting.
Auto trans. You can shift it up or down. Almost as good as a sequential. It only disobeys you when you would otherwise blow the engine. It will let you hit the rev limiter in first gear. If you downshift too early, it will wait for your RPMs to fall. During shifts you get a huge surge in torque. The trans is never disengaged. Low RPM torque multiplication. If you need your hand free, you can put it in D4 and just relax.
I forgot what else I was going to say. So yeah, why are manuals so good again?
I hate driving behind manual trans cars. I always have to let off the gas when they're shifting.
Auto trans. You can shift it up or down. Almost as good as a sequential. It only disobeys you when you would otherwise blow the engine. It will let you hit the rev limiter in first gear. If you downshift too early, it will wait for your RPMs to fall. During shifts you get a huge surge in torque. The trans is never disengaged. Low RPM torque multiplication. If you need your hand free, you can put it in D4 and just relax.
I forgot what else I was going to say. So yeah, why are manuals so good again?
when you race with an auto car it shifts around 3300 rpms but with a manual car you shift it when ever you want
sooo...you dont just leave it in d4 all the time? you actually shift the auto??? doesnt that f**k it up at all? my friends bro did that with an olds alero, f**ked it up after a while...
no you cant shift with an auto it automatically shifts it for you
mileage and price...manuals have better mpg and are cheaper off the lot. if your a racing enthusiant, youll want a manual for control. if you dont care about racing (like me when i bought my car), id get an automatic...which i did...but now regret
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your a dumbass, you have so much more control over your car when your car is manual. if your a dumbass and hit the wrong pedal while driving, then you shouldnt be driving at all.. ive never seen an automatic hit the rev limiter in d4. im going to laugh at ou when you post something about your tranny f**ckin up. honda auto tranny's blow. so basically manual ownz j00
yeah you know ive done my fair share of panic braking and never stalled it, i actualy know which pedals to push, left for the clutch, and right for gas and brake, also hills, whats hard about hills....our cars are front wheel drive, ever hear of a ebrake, put that s**t on and let the clutch out until you start to feel it engage then let the ebrake down....and if you car actually slows down as dramatic as you say, then i dont know whatthe f**k your doin, you can shift almost as fast as an auto with a quick shifter and some practice....and when does a manula "disobey" you, it does everything you tell it to.....you jus crazy peace im out
my homie in high school had a 95 lx auto ... and no offense to anyone else with a 5th gen 4 door dx/lx but with the auto it was slow as f**k!
those are rated at 115hp and i could smoke him with my manual tranny 91 4 door which probably pushes just under 100 hp.
those are rated at 115hp and i could smoke him with my manual tranny 91 4 door which probably pushes just under 100 hp.
Damn shaundrake, your 24 and dont know how to drive a manual. Your a tool.
whining about stalling on a hill and panic braking???
You must drive your eg automatic with both feet, like a freakin grandpa. SLOW AS HELL!!!!!!!
Use one foot when yu drive. stupid
DUH
whining about stalling on a hill and panic braking???
You must drive your eg automatic with both feet, like a freakin grandpa. SLOW AS HELL!!!!!!!
Use one foot when yu drive. stupid
DUH
there is a reason why americans are the only ones who drive automatics.... its because theyre all fat and lazy.......... you want to smoke and talk on your cell..? do the world a favor and pull over...... it's f**king people with their automatics that cause accidents.... they're so mentally retarded from the car doing all the work they have no concept of what's going on around them...... enough with the social critique......... you want to know what's wrong with autos?
first, your civic auto has FOUR gears. my manual tranny has five.... that means my gears are shorter and much sportier than yours will ever be......
second, your auto is sapping power from your motor.... where my manual drivetrain has a 14% power loss due to inefficency, your auto is over 20%.......
third, an automatic tranny is completely computer controlled. this goes back to my original comment about brain-dead drivers in their zones of complacency...... fine you can shift the lever up and down, but all that does is abuse your slushbox.... those gears are not there for sport-shifting... there are there so you can tow a trailer or carry extra weight and still get around.
i wont go on..... for f**ks sake dont ever say an auto is better than a manual ever again.....
first, your civic auto has FOUR gears. my manual tranny has five.... that means my gears are shorter and much sportier than yours will ever be......
second, your auto is sapping power from your motor.... where my manual drivetrain has a 14% power loss due to inefficency, your auto is over 20%.......
third, an automatic tranny is completely computer controlled. this goes back to my original comment about brain-dead drivers in their zones of complacency...... fine you can shift the lever up and down, but all that does is abuse your slushbox.... those gears are not there for sport-shifting... there are there so you can tow a trailer or carry extra weight and still get around.
i wont go on..... for f**ks sake dont ever say an auto is better than a manual ever again.....
i think this thread owned that guy hardcore, auto better than manual tranny, never will betrue that....cant wait for my manual. be about 3.5 years away tho after i graduate....
you can shift whenever you want with an EG automatic. PS, in second gear normal throttle it shifts a little past 4000 and at WOT throttle, all the shift points are higher than 3300.
i actually shift, almost all the time. its become a habit.
no it doesn't. no it didnt. my brother is an auto trans specialist.
you must be one of the smart ones. have you ever even sat in an automatic and looked down at the console?
true
you have close to full control with an EG automatic.
false. I know of a couple of racers that prefer auto. and I know a lot of pro drag racers (not personally) run auto, many of them 3 speeds!
I didn't say a manual disobeys you. reread a post carefully before you respond.
"everything you tell it to". do me a favor, put on your seat belt, get on the freeway, get up to about 7800 RPM, then downshift. f**k it, skip a gear and downshift twice. let the clutch out nice and fast. happy birthday.
Are you looking in a mirror? hmm. I have a BA. Do you have a highschool diploma yet?
Name calling accomplishes one thing. I proves that you are wrong.
what control do you have with a manual that you dont have with an EG automatic? the control of putting the clutch in? because as we all know, the EG gives you control over all its four gears.
you can never ever ever even shift nearly as fast as an automatic. not even a pro racer can. not even fast enough to be on the same time scale. the only thing limiting the speed of a gear shift in an automatic is the ignition timing retard at WOT. from the factory, automatics come with a huge delay between when you actually shift the console and when the trans shifts. that can be removed. but the time it takes for the shift to actually occur even from the factory is basically null.
my homie had a lot of things. i dont make generalizations based on that. there's a lot of things about a car that can make it slower than a similar car. my hatch when I picked it up had SAE 30 oil in it. it had the wrong spark plugs and a dirty air filter. it was SLOW, even for a 1.5. Now its fast for a 1.5.
an automatic will have some power drain in the mid high to high RPM, but that has been minimized by the use of a lock up converter. you can take your automatic to have the torque converter hooked up and then there is almost no difference.
do you make a habit of judging a car's quickness by max horsepower ratings?
umm, yes I do. who told you that? I've driven both extensively and made my choice. nice assumption buddy.
Whining over the internet? That's an interesting idea. I think youre getting a little carried away with the imagination buddy. I never said *I* do that. I probably did while I was learning. 99% of the drivers on the roads are not fit to be driving IMO.
hell yeah I use both feet. sometimes in a turn I will even have both pedals down. how is that slow? *IM stupid? ha ha.
did I say that I do that? I don't even own a cell phone. I dont even smoke. do I have to hold your hand and walk you through this stuff, people? what ever happened to READING COMPREHENSION?
Finally someone hit this one! sad that you're the ONLY one!
there's actually not THAT much of a difference. yeah they're closer, but the real advantage to a 5 speed is that you get 2 overdriven gears. that's an advantage for gas mileage. I have a question for you. Do you participate in a type of racing where you actually use your 5th gear? do you autocross? in autocross you'll probably get to third gear at the highest.
About a 6% difference. So basically what you're saying is I need to get an alternator underdrive pulley, convert to manual steering, or get an electric water pump. Things that most people never do that I can do to make up the difference.
this is a good thing. they used to be hydraulic.
how so?
"slush box" is a term used for the early automatics and really has no place for the modern automatic.
ACTUALLY, I NEVER MADE THAT CLAIM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
"for f**ks sake" is one of my favorite phrases.
Team 4R, thank you for restoring hope. You are the first and only educated respondent.
No one mentioned the stall speed. I'll take care of it for you. Automatics are limited to a certain (sadly low) RPM for launching. With your foot on the brake, and the throttle pressed to the floor, you RPM will go to about 2200 RPM. That's all you need on stock tires/suspension, but its a bit limiting for serious use. With a high stall converter, you can bring this up some, but never high enough to match a manual transaxle.
Peace you punk bitches, none of you "own" me. No one could ever "own" me over an internet messageboard. That would have to be done in person, at the track, two cars in the same class. Who's got a NA 1.5 in southern california? Give me a few more months (I JUST GOT THIS CAR). I guarantee my way of thinking will own your ass.
I have a question. How many of you racing purists have made huge compromises to your car's performance, with ICE systems, with retaining the power steering AC etc, with heavy body kits, over sized rims, spoilers that increase drag and decrease traction on the drive wheels... and yet you make this claim of how detrimental an auto is to performance. You don't go on a crusade against people that have rear spoilers!?
The simple truth is that -- having a manual transmission is all about IMAGE --
and that is what the Honda community is primarily concerned with. For the vast majority of you. There are some good reasons to prefer manual, and I respect a true enthusiast. That's not the impression I get from you people or from most "honda enthusiasts" in general.
I am disappointed. I come from a Toyota centered community and forum, where you will regularly find engineers talking about fluid dynamics and how it relates to exhaust tuning. But they piss me off cuz they regularly bash Hondas, which I know to be superior cars. I have hope for you people!
(not that I want to persuade anyone to convert to automatic. just respect it!)
... well... i should have saved my last soapbox paragraph for another thread. but this is the first thread where I've gone to war against the whole forums way of thinking. the ending result is that all the smart people will respect me, and all the stupid people will hate me. that's how i like it.
The simple truth is that -- having a manual transmission is all about IMAGE --
and that is what the Honda community is primarily concerned with. For the vast majority of you. There are some good reasons to prefer manual, and I respect a true enthusiast. That's not the impression I get from you people or from most "honda enthusiasts" in general.
I am disappointed. I come from a Toyota centered community and forum, where you will regularly find engineers talking about fluid dynamics and how it relates to exhaust tuning. But they piss me off cuz they regularly bash Hondas, which I know to be superior cars. I have hope for you people!
(not that I want to persuade anyone to convert to automatic. just respect it!)
... well... i should have saved my last soapbox paragraph for another thread. but this is the first thread where I've gone to war against the whole forums way of thinking. the ending result is that all the smart people will respect me, and all the stupid people will hate me. that's how i like it.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!
Christ shaundrake, your cry baby! People are saying s**t about about you because your writting it in the first person like your describing yourself.
Great!!!!! YOU prefer an automatic!!! GOOD FOR YOU!!!
Good luck with that auto xing with and automatic----or wait do you even auto x??? You make it sound like you do. I don't.
Forget it-----Im done.
PS -- next time make your post a little longer, it might count for 2!!!!
