Damm people, I know a lot of people get bike racks for the looks, but I actually use them. I have my kids with me all the time cuz I haven't seen them in a while, and they wanted to ride their bikes at their school, so that's why they are on the car. And no I am not a low offset noob, I was one of the first people to rock low offset wheels, but the reason I don't go and spend a crazy amount of money on wheels, is because I rather use that money and put it onto my two mortgages that I have to pay, and plus my kids... So keep on hating...