Nice car They're not as bad as everyone thinks, I raced a couple before and they kept up a hella of a lot better than the evo 8's and 9's did. Only downflaw I would say is the FWD and the redline.. just rely on torque too much... which i dont think is all that bad... 260torque @ 2200 rpm is pretty amazing. (correct me on the numbers if i'm wrong). In stock trim, my car did'nt make 260 torque till like 5000 rpm. lol. If he was AWD, I dunno if I would've taken him or not. (This was stock for stock for comparison)