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Sorry guys...I sold my Si!
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Ok I will try to respond to all of you at once...
Rotary engines weight a mere 20lbs less than the LSX and produce 125hp less with twin turbo's. That should be reason enough.
It's true I have not been a member here for long. But I have owned 2 Civics and had the one I just sold for a while. I am not new to Civic's, cars or forums.
LS1's run about $4-5k used with a puter and a T56 tranny. I plan to spend at least $10k on the build. And it's not going to happen in a weekend. In fact I am not really going to start until spring. I may get the FC RX7this winter but i's not going to get worked on very much until the snow thaws.
Miata's are gay! And RX7's maintain a 50/50 weight ratio after the swap.
Rotary engines weight a mere 20lbs less than the LSX and produce 125hp less with twin turbo's. That should be reason enough.
It's true I have not been a member here for long. But I have owned 2 Civics and had the one I just sold for a while. I am not new to Civic's, cars or forums.
LS1's run about $4-5k used with a puter and a T56 tranny. I plan to spend at least $10k on the build. And it's not going to happen in a weekend. In fact I am not really going to start until spring. I may get the FC RX7this winter but i's not going to get worked on very much until the snow thaws.
Miata's are gay! And RX7's maintain a 50/50 weight ratio after the swap.
5.0 has an iron block and ruins the excellent weight ratio of the miata. The LSX is all aluminum and nearly the same weight as the rotary.
This is what I just sold...
I have not purchased the RX7 yet. I am still looking for a T2 that isn't rusted out (I live in the rust belt). But here is an example of a couple finished ones!...
I have not purchased the RX7 yet. I am still looking for a T2 that isn't rusted out (I live in the rust belt). But here is an example of a couple finished ones!...
You're forgetting that you can then part out the rest of the donor car and make money BACK.
What's left to part out once you take out the entire drivetrain? The interior isn't worth much, maybe make $200 max on that if it is in pristine condition, and you might be able to make another couple hundred on body panels that weren't ruined. Some suspension components that didn't get ruined, and the wheels if they didn't get ruined. MAYBE you will be able to make $1k back if you get a car that isn't totally f**ked up. Then again, with a car that isn't totally f**ked up.....you pay more for it anyway.
but victor if you pay 3-4k for a car with a decent swap and get 1k back that is pretty cheap for almost any swap in a honda right? and we are talking about a motor that does not belong in a car, think along the lines of the 2jz or the s50 (m3) or the f20 all these swaps are costly...
He is looking at ~$3k for the drivetrain after he parts out the donor car, could fluctuate dependent upon different circumstances. I was just saying that is relatively expensive for a used engine considering the budget normal honda owners live on. I am an avid LS1 fan. I would LOVE to have an LS1 car someday. But they are not cheap engines. Power to cost ratio is good, but that doesnt make it cheap.
yes i agree with you on the cost, and the fact that he is a clubcivic member really supports the claim that he will never make this happen
And still no torque while getting worse gas mileage. Good plan.
Stock LS1 makes 350 at the crank, that's just a starting point. With the headers and intake that are necessary for the swap it will get a few more. That's with readily available factory parts!
How much does a turbo rotary and a new turbo with piping cost?
Plus you are pretty much maxxing out it's potential and making it unreliable and expensive to fix.
And LS1 RX7's typically make around 27mpg.
I hope you didnt take any of my comments as putting the LS1 down. I freakin LOVE the LS series engines from Chevrolet, and would love to have an LS based vehicle one day. Just saying that the drivetrain is popular, so its pretty expensive. Yes it is worth the cost.....if you can afford it.yes i agree with you on the cost, and the fact that he is a clubcivic member really supports the claim that he will never make this happen
This depends. LS1 from the Camaro/Firebird make 325 at the crank, the ones in the Corvette make 350. This comment is not meant to s**t on you......but it seems you have more research to do. I have not been looking into LS1's for over a year and a half, and even then I had limited knowledge. Do some more homework before "committing" to something.....it will help you out a lot in the long run. How exactly do you plan to get the drivetrain? Totaled car? Online dealer? Junk yard?
325 and 350 is not a huge difference. I was just trying to make a point about rotarys. LS1's with T56 tranny's, all excessories and puter can be bought for 4-5k with low miles. Trust me, I have been doing my homework.
Like I said, I was not trying to insult you. And I hope you didnt take offense. If you have already done your homework, great. One of the major differences between the two is the tune, they tuned it down for the Camaro/Firebird. 350 at the crank can be had EASILY with headers and exhaust.
FAR slower than an RX7 with an LS1 would be.
This should be a good project...
j/k.. kinda hahah