Turbo upgrades... what next???

edhgreatone

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I recently bought and installed the greddy 19t with the front mount greddy intercooler and I replaced the spark plugs and I have a walbro fuel pump coming.... I am also about to purchase the dsm 450 injectors with a resistor box... I was wondering what else I should upgrade before I boost it up to 8 psi
 

Ravage70

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i hope u know u need something to control the 450s or ur car wont even start
like an afc or uberdata
 


evan2

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it will start but you will just foul the plugs like whoa
i dont know enough about e magange but its a piggy back so yea it should work
not sure how high in can go

like afc cant control anything over 550s
 


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dood, you should of just gone custom, but anyways, like he said you NEED something to control those injectors. you will need hondata, aem, uberdata, or a apexi vafc.
 

edhgreatone

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I have the emanage and I know people that have the laptop setup for it to be tuned. I think that will work fine.
 

SeanMc300

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right, dont put them in until you are at the place tuning the car.
 

edhgreatone

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yeah I won't the place that installed my turbo does the tuning also, so while they are installing the injectors they can tune it there also.... do you guys think I will be okay to push it at 8 psi tuned with a walbro fuel pump, NGK spark plugs, I have a greddy intercooler, and with the 450's installed??? or is 8 psi too much ??
 

evan2

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i think 8 psi is fiine you have a small turbo
you could prob go more
 

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8 psi i is fine...you could run it rich just to be on the safe side. if you want?
 

edhgreatone

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yeah thats prob. what i willl do but i don't want to be wasting a ton of gas right now my gas is pretty much the same with my turbo at just 6 psi
 

evan2

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meh id rather run a lil richer then run lean and blow s**t up
just get a cons tune with a tad richer then stoich af ratio
 

edhgreatone

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yeah i think i am going to tell the shop to do that better safe then sorry I am the high bidder right now on the injectors and there's only a few hours left so hopefully they will be mine
 

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what engine? u dont wanna push 8psi through a d15-16 u will blow that s**t sky high. if ur only runing a d engine leave it at 6. (should be stock psi) if ur running a b18b u can boost upto 9 with out worrying about it to much just as long as u have it tuned. like the other gusy said only do the install were they are gonna tune the piggyback. they will set it to exactly were it should be for the ratio. otherwise they wouldnt have a job ;) word of advise have them tune it to 9psi if ur gonna run 8. it will run a bit richer. but better safe then sorry.
 

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lol, are you kidding me dude...
its a tiny greddy turbo and he has the fuel
of course it depends on the cond of the motor and how good a tune it is

i would push 12lbs with the fuel he has, as long as your people know how to tune.. i dont know enough about e manage but with say hondata you would be fine
ive seen 15 on the stock motor

just because you see 8lbs doesnt mean its 8lbs from say variation of a t3/t4 its just a lil turbo
less cfms

doh

and a ls motor can take 20lbs on say a 14b, it all depends on which turbo
i ran 10.5lbs on my gsr stock bottom end, t3/t04b lots of fuel and hondata tuned, could of went to say 13 but i wanted it to last a long time

plus we had a cons tune on it

dont talk boost if your just going to tell him the wrong stuff
 

civic31g

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no stock ls block can take 20lbs. and u run 10.5 so u dont have to buy the 5 wire map. cuz once u hit 11 u have to have the 5 wire map. (not that big of deal just more wires) i do agree with the hondata they seem to work the best from what ive seen. not a lot of ppl around were i live can f**k with them though, and the apex-i is ezy to f**k with, but u better know what ur doing. that is a tiny ass turbo, but i still would push over 7lbs on a d16. they are so f**kin weak.
 

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5 wire o2 sensor????
no buddy, all u need to run 11psi plus is a 3bar gm map sensor

and yes u can do 20psi with a 14b on an ls block
it all depends on horsepower rather than psi
 

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yeah the 3 bar map, i think it has 5 wires not 3....not sure though. no one here is runnign that high.
 

Ravage70

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it has 3 wires just like the stock honda one thats why its used
 

evan2

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lol you mean a 3bar map sensor and you dont tune for 9lbs how can you tune for 9lbs unless you push 9lbs
you just add more fuel at 8

you have already said your area knows nothing about hondata or anything like that, it shows you dont know what your talkiknga bout and you just take what you read on the net and try to push it onto other people
what have you boosted? nothing i assume

you can easily run 20lbs on a ls motor with a 14b its been done before... my friends are all sohc stunnas, we boost thier cars and run way over 7lbs

he isnt running a sc61 or anything its a small turbo
its all about CFMS, lbs mean nothing becuase all turbos are different

and to be real we ran 10.5 cuz i tried to get 10 and i get getting 11lbs or then i would get 10.5 it was cold when we tuned so we said f**k it
got tired ofgetting out of the car on teh side of the highway to adjust it, plus it was damn dark
 


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