i meant the B-series set-ups would need more than I/H/E to outrun the turboD (its kinda hard to type what i mean sometimes)CarbonCreations said:i/h/e costs nearly a grand for brand new name brand parts. s**t thats like half a turbo. And you dont need I/H with a turbo... (you get it in a kit -- IC and Turbo Mani)