Turbo engine combo

[d-proff]

what do you all think is the best turbo and b-series engine combonation is?and why?

 

[whoistent]

ls/vtec and any turbo..

 

[Billy.]

ls/vtec and any turbo..

ill 2nd that nomination

3 reasons:

reliability
cost effectiveness
availability of parts​

 

[toneekay]

I would have to say, GSR + 57/63ar, only because I would be too lazy to do the ls/vtec swap

 

[SiBlue_EK]

ill 2nd that nomination

3 reasons:

reliability
cost effectiveness
availability of parts​

QFT!!!!!

 

[1Lowcoupe]

ls/vtec ftw.

 

[bizoneoeh]

ls/vtec? not only do they have a SHITLOAD of problems n/a but to add boost to it.



I say LSt but if you absolutely NEED vtec than a b16 would be good. I mean s**t, evry person with a ls/vtec has had nothing but problems so if you want less problems I'd stay with a motor that already has vtec or doesn't have it at all. imo, the b18 is one of the stongest honda motors aside from the k series and then to add bost to it......

 

[whiteciv88]

ls/vtec? not only do they have a SHITLOAD of problems n/a but to add boost to it.



I say LSt but if you absolutely NEED vtec than a b16 would be good. I mean s**t, evry person with a ls/vtec has had nothing but problems so if you want less problems I'd stay with a motor that already has vtec or doesn't have it at all. imo, the b18 is one of the stongest honda motors aside from the k series and then to add bost to it......

he is so right hit it right on the money bizoneoeh.

 

[hardcore97]

ive seen plenty of ls vtecs that dont have problems. theresa guy here with a b20vtec thats nasty and hes had it for a long time. revs to 10.5k no problems

 

[Billy.]

ls/vtec? not only do they have a SHITLOAD of problems n/a but to add boost to it.



I say LSt but if you absolutely NEED vtec than a b16 would be good. I mean s**t, evry person with a ls/vtec has had nothing but problems so if you want less problems I'd stay with a motor that already has vtec or doesn't have it at all. imo, the b18 is one of the stongest honda motors aside from the k series and then to add bost to it......

ive got to completely disagree with biz on this one. im 20k miles into a boosted ls/vtec. 0 problems. i take it to 8.2k rpms probably half-dozen times a month just playing around, and autocross regularly and it's never given me any complaints. i even have the apparently "low-rated" cometic headgasket, which so far has outlived the OEM headgasket i had on my b20vtec


ls/vtec is a solid setup from my first hand experience

 

[chinkyeyedemcee]

ive got to completely disagree with biz on this one. im 20k miles into a boosted ls/vtec. 0 problems. i take it to 8.2k rpms probably half-dozen times a month just playing around, and autocross regularly and it's never given me any complaints. i even have the apparently "low-rated" cometic headgasket, which so far has outlived the OEM headgasket i had on my b20vtec


ls/vtec is a solid setup from my first hand experience

is ur block sleeved? if not i'm just waiting for that s**t to blow up. y don't u tell what LS redlines at???

ive seen plenty of ls vtecs that dont have problems. theresa guy here with a b20vtec thats nasty and hes had it for a long time. revs to 10.5k no problems

hahaha... bahahahahaha 10.5k ok what the f**k does he drive a spoon crate motor??? i call bull s**t. for one no oem cluster even has a tach that goes pass 10k ctr being the only that goes that high, spoon being the only cluster i know that has a tach that goes higher then that unless u start running digital tach's and most mad dope "monster tach's" only run to 10k as well. let's see the vid homie, and how this dood knows he continiously revs 10.5k

ls/vtec? not only do they have a SHITLOAD of problems n/a but to add boost to it.



I say LSt but if you absolutely NEED vtec than a b16 would be good. I mean s**t, evry person with a ls/vtec has had nothing but problems so if you want less problems I'd stay with a motor that already has vtec or doesn't have it at all. imo, the b18 is one of the stongest honda motors aside from the k series and then to add bost to it......

i agree with dood almost...

lsv is a strong/reliable motor IF built well. i think lsv is awsome to build with strictly oem parts. can it be built for boost? yea sleeve it. but if u can put that much money into a build why the f**k would u not be buying an after market block?? aves, dart, etc... nothing like the strength to hold 40lbs o boost!


so i would say the BEST s**t to boost would be, aves block. turbo...? what ever they use in space ships

 

[hardcore97]

i dont have a video of his car that sohws it revving that high but i do know him and i know for a fact he knows his s**t when it comes to engines. of course you can sit here and bullshit. know what the difference is? im not bullshitting ive seen this car in person and its a nasty little civic.

 

[chinkyeyedemcee]

i dont have a video of his car that sohws it revving that high but i do know him and i know for a fact he knows his s**t when it comes to engines. of course you can sit here and bullshit. know what the difference is? im not bullshitting ive seen this car in person and its a nasty little civic.

so how do he measure it the rpm??

i'm not saying it's not a beast, but i highly doubt it revs 10.5k, i sense some exageration in the true numbers.

 

[hardcore97]

whatever i dont have any way to prove it so its pointless to argue with someone whos never heard or seen his car. if you listen to him run it out you can tell hes revving pretty damn high

 

[chinkyeyedemcee]

calm down. i'm just asking pretty straight forward questions, i don't doubt that it revs high but 10.5k?

 

[Billy.]

is ur block sleeved? if not i'm just waiting for that s**t to blow up. y don't u tell what LS redlines at???

ARP rod bolts/head studs, so i dont really care what a stock LS block redlines at

and why would i sleeve a b18 for 300hp? you wouldnt sleeve a b16 for lower boost would you? and they have the same bore

 

[chinkyeyedemcee]

ARP rod bolts/head studs, so i dont really care what a stock LS block redlines at

and why would i sleeve a b18 for 300hp? you wouldnt sleeve a b16 for lower boost would you? and they have the same bore

because ur over reving

 

[hardcore97]

with arp rod bolts you can rev an ls higher. thats the weak point. those stock rod bolts are the same size as d series rod bolts pretty much.

 

[Pootie]

Street/simi-Trace set up

me personally i like GSRs (because u don't have to share oil).. But done righttt LsVtec can be just as realiable.

street/daily
*81mm bore (stock sleeves)
*9:1/9.8:1 pistons ( the 9.8:1 will be a lil more responsive if useing a larger turbo)
*Eagle rode ( because a true STREET car runs on pump gas, and i think the limit on pump gas is about 500whp, and thats about the limit on Eagle small bolt rods)
*Stock Honda headgasket,bearings, OIL/WATER pumps
* Stock crank (if useing a GSR , u can use a Ls crank and rods, and it's pretty much a LsVtec) but without the oil line issue.
ARP/GE headstuds
THATS IT FOR THE BOTTOM END

HEAD CAN BE STOCKKKKKKKKKK with 98+ ITR cams or CTR cams ( head work and valvetrain is always a plus, but won't kill you at this level of power)


While i'm here i might as well trow in a few suporting items.
pretty much any Honda B tranny except B16.. so Ls,GSR,TypeR... A diff is always a plus (obx, OEM ITR, or whatever your budget will allow)

Clutch : i have used ACT in the past and they have failed a lottt.. i have sinced switched to Competition Clutch and it's been smooth sailing. So u know where my vote is.

Fuel set up: under 500whp a Walbro 255 will do the trick , Dual 255's is :... be safe n get atleast 850cc or better injectors. u can always tune down! ( i had 1000cc)

3 Bar map ( stock map will only read 12 psi)

Learn how to preload, and u can run stock axels!!

Some log manifolds will make the 500whp power goal, for example Inline Pro, Love Fab, and others of the same or better quality ( they can be in the range of $250-$600).
But if u wanna go bling.. then u might wanna look into a RamHorn or Topmount style manifold, If u are runing a larger turbo the benifit of these manifolds having EQUAL lenght runners will help your spool time and turbo responce. But it's BLING at this point really.

Turbos: i like SC61s, Borg Warner S35?'s are good mid range turbos too,GT3076,T67<~~~ all GREAT turbos! Even a GT35R will work , might be a lilll laggy , but up top it's beastttt!

I like Precision coolers 600hp is about good, but i have seen thoes Eaby GodSpeed coolers on cars making over 600whp, soo

Tial Gates FTW, THE END!! Snapse too

thats about it, everything else is up to you really.

 

[djrenok]

10.5 lol its a civic bro not a lambo