Matt Damon makes a good point..

[Jimmy2times]

I reserve the right to own a tank, anti-aircraft battery, RPGs, etc. I haven't broken any laws with the small arms, why do you fear me having more? I once took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the US, and I didn't rescind that oath when I left the military. I take it as seriously today as I did when I wore the uniform.

you sir, are a good man.

EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQOUi6ec

btw: qft.

 

[SilverEXCoupe]

Let me know when you get that tank I want to go for a ride mang

This will be the first place I come for first mod suggestions.

Thanks J2T!

 

[LowNotSlow]

Dude you should murdah out the tank. Black on black on black.

 

[MR99si]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo

 

[Jimmy2times]

win. ^

 

[oc_civic]

win. ^

X infinity...

 

[JiuJitsu_greg]

Not so sure about that. Bush is in charge of the entire American military and is finding what a difficult task urban warfare is.

USA vs gorilla warfare is a different situation from jewish shop owners taking on the third reich.

 

[JiuJitsu_greg]

does anyone else find it ironic that some who TRAINS to hurt (and maybe kill) another human is arguing that guns are not needed.. LOL

I don't train to hurt people. I train to better myself.

 

[Jimmy2times]

I don't train to hurt people. I train to better myself.

better yourself....so that ur better than other people...so that if they try to hurt you, you can hurt them first in a way that prevents them from hurting you.


so...what's the difference between u and us? except that we've found a more efficient way of doing so?

 

[JiuJitsu_greg]

in fact greg all you look like you want to do is take blame AWAY from the criminal and cast it to the law abiding citizen... its YOUR fault you live in a shitty area.. its YOUR fault you dont have an alarm.. its YOUR fault you dont have a big dog..

BULLSHIT.. ITS THE SCUMBAG CRIMINALS FAULT FOR BREAKING INTO MY HOME....

You as a free american have a choice. You can take alternative means of cleaning up your neighborhood or not. If you choose not then it is partially your fault for negative things that happen. Of course a criminal is at blame for the most part but the person not doing anything is at fault as well. I'm not taking the blame away from criminal I'm placing the blame on those that deserve it.

 

[JiuJitsu_greg]

So everyone should only be allowed to own single shot muzzle stuffers (black power rifles/pistols)? Your statement is quite possible the stupidest I have ever heard! If three people break into you house and attack you are you supposed to say oh wait a second bad guys let me reload my single shot so I can kill you before you kill me. Law abiding citizens have ever "RIGHT" to own guns weather they are single shot or semi auto, we should focus on keeping them out if criminals hands. Lets not forget that millions of law abiding citizens use semi autos for target practice/competition & even hunting!

Cars kill far more people annually then guns do and they are not even a constitutional right, maybe we should ban them or limit their top speed to 60mph?

If Obama is elected he will push an all out ban on guns, after a term of him in office this is the kind of Socialist crap we'd be seeing: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/224988/youtube-bans-knife-clips-in-uk.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQOUi6ec

Once again i'm not saying what people should own. I think a semi automatic weapon is overkill. Its just like those people that drive a huge duelly truck just because they like it. It's fine that they like it and that it looks nice but it's overkill and it's helping to increase dependency on gasoline. Lets say three people break into oc's house im not sure what kind of weapons he has lets say he has a glock. Will the glock with 22 bullets in the clip be less effected then a semi automatic rifle? it's simple overkill. You don't need gun and you sure don't need guns that are semi automatic. I think you are failing to see that this is a situation of want as opposed to need. Lol I love how you label socialism as crap. It's not crap it's just a less superficial way of governing a nations people.

 

[JiuJitsu_greg]

better yourself....so that ur better than other people...so that if they try to hurt you, you can hurt them first in a way that prevents them from hurting you.


so...what's the difference between u and us? except that we've found a more efficient way of doing so?

Here's the thing you are just making things up and then arguing with yourself. Why not pm battle yourself to see which side wins. I train to better myself. I'm not into hurting people at all. I don't really enjoy fully rolling with white belts because I tap them no problem and i'm not so superficial that I need to hurt people to make myself happy. The difference in you and I? I know what I NEED to survive you like to make up things that you need. Things I need to survive: Air, Water, Clothes, food, shelter.

 

[oc_civic]

you could better yourself physically in MANY non-combative ways.. but you still choose a sport that is at the core designed to injure other people..

 

[oc_civic]

Once again i'm not saying what people should own. I think a semi automatic weapon is overkill. Its just like those people that drive a huge duelly truck just because they like it. It's fine that they like it and that it looks nice but it's overkill and it's helping to increase dependency on gasoline. Lets say three people break into oc's house im not sure what kind of weapons he has lets say he has a glock. Will the glock with 22 bullets in the clip be less effected then a semi automatic rifle? it's simple overkill. You don't need gun and you sure don't need guns that are semi automatic. I think you are failing to see that this is a situation of want as opposed to need. Lol I love how you label socialism as crap. It's not crap it's just a less superficial way of governing a nations people.

be honest.. in regards to guns.. do you have any idea what you are talking about..

 

[oc_civic]

Once again i'm not saying what people should own. I think a semi automatic weapon is overkill. Its just like those people that drive a huge duelly truck just because they like it. It's fine that they like it and that it looks nice but it's overkill and it's helping to increase dependency on gasoline. Lets say three people break into oc's house im not sure what kind of weapons he has lets say he has a glock. Will the glock with 22 bullets in the clip be less effected then a semi automatic rifle? it's simple overkill. You don't need gun and you sure don't need guns that are semi automatic. I think you are failing to see that this is a situation of want as opposed to need. Lol I love how you label socialism as crap. It's not crap it's just a less superficial way of governing a nations people.

i own several weapons.. but the gun under my pillow is a glock 23, semi automatic pistol that holds 13 LE style hollowpoint rounds... heres why first of all if you break into my house and i shoot you with a 308 bolt action rifle.. not only am i going to kill you but im going to kill or injure anyone behind them the bullet is designed to travel.. a typical house structure at close range will NOT stop it.. PLUS its long as f**k and tactically NOT a good close quarters weapon.. my glock is underpowered compared to that hunting rifle.. and is DESIGNED with that round to stop someone and NOT kill people behind them.. the hollow point round breaks up inside the target making it unlikely to do additional damage to others... and it holds 13 rounds which is hardly ridiculous.. im NOT toting some fully automatic 30 round uzi.. im using a gun that is DESIGNED to kill atarget and NOT hurt others.. but again people like yourself are SO cought up in the stigma that you would RATHER have me shoot somoene with a hunting rifle because it LOOKS less scary.. putting OTHERS in the area at risk.. VS usign a handgun that is DESIGNED to safely eliminate targets..

 

[JiuJitsu_greg]

be honest.. in regards to guns.. do you have any idea what you are talking about..

All the knowledge I have from guns comes from my father owning guns and friends having guns as well. My father is a master sergent in the Army and I have been to Camp Gruber with him to shoot M-240B on occasions. I've has experience with his Mossberg 590, his Glock 19C, and he has a few rifles and a 44 of some kind. I think its a magnum. So I have experience with guns. I'm not expert or anything close to that though.

 

[oc_civic]

socialism IS crap for hard working people and GREAT for lazy assholes..


i pay XXXX amount of money into the government to cover the cost of running it.. if SOME of that money is diverted to people who don't work then it SUCKS for me because im beign forced to pick up the tab of lazy people.. want money? want medical? GO GET A f**king JOB...

its funny in one instance you talk all this s**t on us for not "cleaning up the area we live in" but in the same breath support social nonsense that basically supports the lazy..

you also compare a asemi automatic handgun to a semiautomatic rifle then say no one needs any kind of semi automatic weapon.. fyi you are making no sense..

 

[oc_civic]

All the knowledge I have from guns comes from my father owning guns and friends having guns as well. My father is a master sergent in the Army and I have been to Camp Gruber with him to shoot M-240B on occasions. I've has experience with his Mossberg 590, his Glock 19C, and he has a few rifles and a 44 of some kind. I think its a magnum. So I have experience with guns. I'm not expert or anything close to that though.

that woudl explain why your post about my criminal scenario made no sense at all..

 

[JiuJitsu_greg]

you could better yourself physically in MANY non-combative ways.. but you still choose a sport that is at the core designed to injure other people..

I'm not trying to better myself physically with my jiujitsu. I better myself physically by running lifting etc.

 

[oc_civic]

I'm not trying to better myself physically with my jiujitsu. I better myself physically by running lifting etc.

then why participate in such a violence driven sport.. we WONT debate it being violent or not because i have more respect for you than that and KNOW you know the roots of the sport..