How many Civic models were relased from 96-00?

[JohnS.]

Anyone can walk up to a clean EM1 and write the VIN down from the windshield. What different is it from posting it online?

 

[Shiznit]

^^ because there are only a handful of people that walk by a car daily. posting on the internet is for everyone with internet access to see. if you give me your VIN number, i can find out to whom that car is registered. then using the powers of the internet ill inevitably be able to find out where you live (and therefore where the car should be parked)

that may just be my paranoia talking but nevertheless i dont see a reason in making something that is already easy to steal, even easier.

and im not saying that Amy would steal it at all, im just saying there is no reason why i should give out uneccessary information

i dont understand the purpose of such a list in the first place

 

[NOFX]

Basically on my list I'm trying to figure out if I can find any patterns (which I have) in the colors of the cars related to the VINs and also the sequence numbers will help to give me an idea of approximately the number that were produced each year.

Probably about half the VINs I have are created by me, so it's not a horrible thing for me to not have VINs. The good thing about VINs that I can match to an actual car is that the person can tell me the color of the car.

I have no idea how I could possibly find anyone's house with their VIN. I know there are sites online that advertise that you can find out more information about a person by their license plate, but I don't believe you can search by the VIN.

I can think of all the stolen cars out there that just go to impound because they can't figure out the owner. MY car was stolen and I didn't get a phone call saying, "Hey, this is the police. We found your stolen car." Well, I did eventually, but only after it was stolen, found by police, several hours later I reported it, and it took them at least two hours for them to match it to my theft report.

I know the DMV has the VIN to the car (as does insurance, previous owners could and all places the car has been worked on), but I don't think the government facilities at least can search a car by the VIN. I think they could match cars up by the license plate number, license number and the name of the person, but I'm not so sure they can search by anything else. Knowing how the government works, it probably varies by state. I know on Honda-Tech they were recently saying (when on the subject of blurring plates) that even the services online that match information to license plates, only certain states can be done.

I can't think of anything else that is unique from EM1 to EM1 in the US, but if there were anything, I would gladly start asking the owners. I mean, they're all manual transmission cars and there only two different years. I do have rough locations of some of the cars (city), plus who owns it and if the car is salvage, clean or totaled or what. The last part is particularly interesting because everyone tells me how rare these cars are and more aren't clean titled. Most of the cars I've collected are clean titled. Not that I can really check it without making myself a CarFax account or something, which I'm not really so interested in.

I suppose I could figure out from the VIN where the car was registered (what town or city) through CarFax, but that would hardly help me find where a car parks at night.

If I wanted to find information out about where a car I know of online parks at night, it would be easier to just look through that person's posts or sell them something. The first way would give me a general idea (maybe even an address) and the second would give me an address.

Even if I were a thief, what would be the sense in going to another state to find an Si to steal or break into?

This list is only accessible to me. I keep it with me. It's hidden away in a place that makes it even difficult for me to remember where it is. No one is going to steal my computer so they can get the VINs I've collected so they can steal Civics that are already easy to steal.

But then again, I'm not forcing you to give me your VIN, so I don't see the big deal.

 

[NOFX]

Just looking at another thread I'm a part of. encysam is who I sold my rear lip to. He drives an Si. I suppose I should get to stealing or breaking into his car since he gave us his address. Then again, Madagascar is quite a ways away. If the car were in Texas or something, I could understand flying out and stealing that, but man, Africa is far away!

 

[stealthex]

u know theres a decoder for vins right? http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-articles/decoding-vin-numbers-29059/

 

[NOFX]

u know theres a decoder for vins right? http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-articles/decoding-vin-numbers-29059/

I don't see how this has anything to do with anything we're talking about...

An Si is going to say 1HGEM1 in the beginning of the VIN. It's that easy. I don't need a "VIN decoder" for that.

I can create an Si VIN in my head if I want. It's not hard. But doing that doesn't tell me the color of the car.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Amy, the fact that you are posting about you have VINs would be enough to scare me from giving you a VIN if I had one. You're posting that you have VINs, which is a security risk to those giving it to you. If a thief sees this, and he happens to have a friend who can hack, you're putting those peoples property at risk by thieves. Unless you have the money to cover the costs of that persons car, I'd delete those VINs.

 

[Eran]

Amy, the fact that you are posting about you have VINs would be enough to scare me from giving you a VIN if I had one. You're posting that you have VINs, which is a security risk to those giving it to you. If a thief sees this, and he happens to have a friend who can hack, you're putting those peoples property at risk by thieves. Unless you have the money to cover the costs of that persons car, I'd delete those VINs.

Magical hackers! Quick, everyone back to the nerdery to protect your calculators!

You're making it out like she's the f**king Pentagon of Honda VIN's, and that some crack team involving Marky Mark, Scott Evil, Mos Def, and Tits McGee is going to pull the Washington Job on her laptop.

 

[NOFX]

Amy, the fact that you are posting about you have VINs would be enough to scare me from giving you a VIN if I had one. You're posting that you have VINs, which is a security risk to those giving it to you. If a thief sees this, and he happens to have a friend who can hack, you're putting those peoples property at risk by thieves. Unless you have the money to cover the costs of that persons car, I'd delete those VINs.

It's on a portable harddrive that doesn't stay plugged into the computer.

If someone hacked into my computer for some weird reason, the VINs are probably the least of any concern. No one is going to track those VINs down by hearing John Smith has an Si with such and such VIN in Los Angeles, for example.

It is a higher security risk to park an Si outside than it is for me to have the VIN saved in a file.

I have heard of exactly zero Civics being stolen in relation to having the VIN from that car. Yes, you can create a key, but like I said, it's much easier to get into a Civic than it would be to have to go to Honda and get a key made. Getting a key made puts the person at a higher risk (being caught on camera buying said key and possibly even have their credit/debit card information if they purchased it that way), costs them time and money and just plain isn't needed.

I know every time I purchase anything at Honda, they ask for my phone number or name at the parts counter, then send me to pay at the cashier next to parts.

Anyone alleging that I could possibly be a thief is insane. That's a real a*****e move.

 

[NOFX]

I wonder how many cars listed for sale were stolen only because the VIN was posted online.

No one is going to hack anything to steal some ten year old Civics.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

It's on a portable harddrive that doesn't stay plugged into the computer.

Which means the file can still be pulled when that harddrive is plugged in.

If someone hacked into my computer for some weird reason, the VINs are probably the least of any concern.

Probably, but they could make a good buck on the VINs.

No one is going to track those VINs down by hearing John Smith has an Si with such and such VIN in Los Angeles, for example.

They aren't. They would get them, and give them to thieves. It wouldn't take much to find where a car is located if you have the right tools.

It is a higher security risk to park an Si outside than it is for me to have the VIN saved in a file.

Going around saying you have Civic Si VINs is still a security risk.

I have heard of exactly zero Civics being stolen in relation to having the VIN from that car.

I'd keep looking around.

Yes, you can create a key, but like I said, it's much easier to get into a Civic than it would be to have to go to Honda and get a key made.

Why would they want a key made? They ARE thieves.

Getting a key made puts the person at a higher risk (being caught on camera buying said key and possibly even have their credit/debit card information if they purchased it that way), costs them time and money and just plain isn't needed.

Again, who said anything about keys being made?

I know every time I purchase anything at Honda, they ask for my phone number or name at the parts counter, then send me to pay at the cashier next to parts.

Which is standard business procedure, again, what does this have to do with my post?

Anyone alleging that I could possibly be a thief is insane. That's a real a*****e move.

I don't think anyone was saying you were a thief, but if we didn't know you, that's how you WOULD be coming off. "Hey guys, give my your VINs, I'm doing a personal project."

Magical hackers! Quick, everyone back to the nerdery to protect your calculators!

You're making it out like she's the f**king Pentagon of Honda VIN's, and that some crack team involving Marky Mark, Scott Evil, Mos Def, and Tits McGee is going to pull the Washington Job on her laptop.

Magical hackers? I don't know how you'd consider that magical, computers get hacked everyday.

To be completely honest, it wouldn't take much for a competent and experienced hacker to get the wanted files.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

I wonder how many cars listed for sale were stolen only because the VIN was posted online.

No one is going to hack anything to steal some ten year old Civics.

Hackers breach the security a computer just to show off to their friends, or to add something to their list. What's to stop one to hack a computer they know has a file that could possibly be sold for a nice bit of money.

 

[Eran]

Personal computers have probably NEVER been hacked for specific files pertaining to car VIN's. You seem to be under the impression that there is a publicly accessible database out there that will give you someone's name, address, and phone number and a mapquest to their house when you punch in a VIN. Maybe if you're going to hack the FBI to steal a Civic ....

People hack for things that are worth-while, like credit card and social security numbers.

 

[NOFX]

Which means the file can still be pulled when that harddrive is plugged in.

Probably, but they could make a good buck on the VINs.

They aren't. They would get them, and give them to thieves. It wouldn't take much to find where a car is located if you have the right tools.

Going around saying you have Civic Si VINs is still a security risk.

I'd keep looking around.

Why would they want a key made? They ARE thieves.

Again, who said anything about keys being made?

Which is standard business procedure, again, what does this have to do with my post?

I don't think anyone was saying you were a thief, but if we didn't know you, that's how you WOULD be coming off. "Hey guys, give my your VINs, I'm doing a personal project."
agical hackers? I don't know how you'd consider that magical, computers get hacked everyday.

To be completely honest, it wouldn't take much for a competent and experienced hacker to get the wanted files.

So exactly what would someone be able to do with VINs that would make it a security risk then?

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Personal computers have probably NEVER been hacked for specific files pertaining to car VIN's.

You'd be suprised on what personal computers have been hacked for.

People hack for things that are worth-while, like credit card and social security numbers.

And to a hacker looking for a quick buck, this file could be worth their time.

 

[NOFX]

I also find it difficult to believe a thief would have much interest in a VIN at all.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

So exactly what would someone be able to do with VINs that would make it a security risk then?

They could sell the list?

 

[NOFX]

They could sell the list?

I catch that you think some hacker woul want to sell the list for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And why would a thief be interested in it I mean.

 

[Eran]

You'd be suprised on what personal computers have been hacked for.

No, I wouldn't. It's what I spent most of middle school doing. Novel was awesome.

And to a hacker looking for a quick buck, this file could be worth their time.

Ahem.

You seem to be under the impression that there is a publicly accessible database out there that will give you someone's name, address, and phone number and a mapquest to their house when you punch in a VIN. Maybe if you're going to hack the FBI to steal a Civic ...

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

I also find it difficult to believe a thief would have much interest in a VIN at all.

Why wouldn't they? Especially a LIST of VINs that could have vehicles in their area.

Let's take this for example:
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/car.thieves.commuter.2.1106961.html

How much would a thief LOVE to have a list of VINs in front of them that could tell them where a vehicle is, instead of having to go out and scout and search for one, when they could have that list and they could know for almost certainty that THAT vehicle in the area.