Pulled over for nooo reason.. ?

[XpL0d3r]

he didnt pull him over for no reason.. he pulled him over because he was in the vicinity AND matched the general description of cars that were causing a problem.. good luck with the complaint.. he DIDNT ticket you.. he DIDNT detain you an unreasonable amount of time.. he DIDNT search your car.. he simply pulled you over, conducted his investigation.. informed you that IF you were participating in activity that was causing a problem.. NOT to do it anymore.. OR if any of your FRIENDS were participating that they should stop as well..

comparing what happened to RANDOMLY pulling over a black guy with NO reason behind it and telling him about drugs is such an off the wall comparison..

he drives a car similar to those that were causing issue...
he was right in the IMMEDIATE area where the problem took place...
in fact earlier his car was actually there..

so you DON'T know that someone didnt describe that car.. you really have no idea.. the person calling the police could have said.. "there are a bunch of cars driving crazy around a parking lot" and the dispatcher could have said "can you describe the cars" and that might have just been the description given..

makes sense!

... but his reasoning was still laaaaaaaaame

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

If you want to get the cops on your side for the meet and on good terms, call them, meet with a Sergeant, let them know what's going on and how it's always a group of guys that come in and doing their bullshit and leave. If you get on their good side, they'll be on your good side. If you can, get his number and give him a ring when the guys start their bullshit, or ask if he can throw a cruiser to patrol to catch the guys doing it.

IMO, it's always better to have the cops on your side when you're throwing a meet, then to have them on the local businesses side.

 

[civhatch92]

You got off with no charges, just be thankful!

 

[253eg]

Evo posted looks boring

 

[bizoneoeh]

If you ever want to be a d**k and get a cop back for arresting you (I know the op didn't get arrested) just piss, s**t, throw up or all 3 together in their back seat. The cops are responsible for cleaning out their cars and they f**king HATE that!

 

[Sammo115]

Sounds like you speak from experience there Biz

 

[hooked_on4]

cool story bro!

I once pulled into a toys R us Parking lot at 11pm, to meet a friend literally was there for 90 seconds when a cop comes in and give us trespassing tickets, we hadn't even gotten out of our cars we were just talking through the windows side by side.

So I don't see the big deal here....

 

[bizoneoeh]

Sounds like you speak from experience there Biz

and?




not piss or s**t tho.... just barfed pretty nice.... a few times.




nothing criminal tho, I had arrearages from my childrens child birth bill. I had like a total of $14k but I finished paying it of early last year. The last time I got arrested all I owed was $215 bucks but they put out a $500 dollar warant in order to come grab me because they can't issue a FOC warrant for anything under $500. So I just returned the favor by telling the cops after they arrested me that I needed my inhailer...


They sent a rookie cop to transport me to the hospital to grab an inhailer (of course I left mine at home on purpose) then to the county jail 20mi away. That's when I threw up all over the shield, floor and seats. It took about 10min to force myself to hurl and he heard me. He was just yelling for me to wait untill I arrived at the cj. That just gave me more motavation. In the end, I ended up delaying him from getting out of work at 10pm untill 2am AND I got out as soon as I arrived to the jail. He had to drive back to his station to clean his puked filled patrol car but I had to wait 3 days to get the extra money out of the $500 bail I had to pay because like I said... I only owed around $215.




I'm totally done now tho! Just the perks of having kids without insurance



I learned my lesson!

 

[Sammo115]

and?

Nada Nada. I was just picturing how that came out and it was right on the spot where I would say. What would Biz do? HAHA.

 

[vjf915]

just something to think about....

cop already been working 9 hours...
already dealt with god only knows what bullshit....
meth head freaking out at a fast food restaurant...
someone stealing a $10 watch at the local Walmart...
and NOW some grocery store is calling bitching about some kids playing race track in their parking lot...
the captain bitches at the cops..
and they respond...
YES they can stop you and question you... it is reasonable as your car matches the description of those that were creating a problem.. he didnt give you a ticket... it does not sound like he detained you an unreasonable amount of time...
he was just letting you know.. and you told him you were eating.. no ticket.. nothing strange really IMO..

Im sorry, but thats incorrect. Just because he has a modified car, and there were other modified cars at the parking lot does not give them the right to pull him over. The only way that could be justified would be if the store owner called up and complained about "insert description of OP's civic here". In that case, the cops could essentially pull him over. But just because he has a modified car does not give them reason. Thats called discrimination.

On the flip side, what bud said is right. A cop can follow you for 2 minutes and he will be able to find more than enough to pull you over for.

 

[XpL0d3r]

Evo posted looks boring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPB-29Pm3Vo

45 seconds in.. listen to that beast... oh, and STOCK block...

 

[253eg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPB-29Pm3Vo

45 seconds in.. listen to that beast... oh, and STOCK block...

 

[DRISSN]

thats a sweet evo. i'd rock it. then again, like i've said before, i'd rock anything faster than my civic...

 

[XpL0d3r]

looks like my dad

 

[oc_civic]

Im sorry, but thats incorrect. Just because he has a modified car, and there were other modified cars at the parking lot does not give them the right to pull him over. The only way that could be justified would be if the store owner called up and complained about "insert description of OP's civic here". In that case, the cops could essentially pull him over. But just because he has a modified car does not give them reason. Thats called discrimination.

"well did you see what the car looks like?"

"yeah it was real low to the ground and had a loud muffler.. was dark in color"

"ok we will check it out"


guess what.. if a cop wants to pull you over he will.. and he will do so with ZERO fear of recourse.. because the SIMPLE act of pulling someone over is NOT really violating their rights.. a violation of someone's rights occurs when they DO something to you.. like for example detain you with NO reason.. but simply pulling you over and asking you questions is not really even in that realm..

 

[vjf915]

Okay let me rephrase what I said. They are not supposed to, meaning there are laws against, pulling you over without at least reasonable suspicion. This means that just because the OP has a modified car, they do not have the right to pull him over. If, however, someone described his car......which would need to be more descriptive than "low, dark color, loud muffler". In this situation, the officer was wrong for one of two reasons. One, he had no reasonable suspicion to pull OP over. Two, if he was given an accurate description of OP and his car, the officer is required to tell him that.

 

[bud6770]

Okay let me rephrase what I said. They are not supposed to, meaning there are laws against, pulling you over without at least reasonable suspicion. This means that just because the OP has a modified car, they do not have the right to pull him over. If, however, someone described his car......which would need to be more descriptive than "low, dark color, loud muffler". In this situation, the officer was wrong for one of two reasons. One, he had no reasonable suspicion to pull OP over. Two, if he was given an accurate description of OP and his car, the officer is required to tell him that.

This is what i was getting at, They are REQUIRED to have reasonable suspicion. With what you said oc, this is true in the fact that the requirements are rarely followed, its how its turned over time and sadly no one cares enough to do anything about it. They know if they need to, they can find a reason. No matter what, they will be in the clear.

 

[DarkCreep]

Okay let me rephrase what I said. They are not supposed to, meaning there are laws against, pulling you over without at least reasonable suspicion. This means that just because the OP has a modified car, they do not have the right to pull him over. If, however, someone described his car......which would need to be more descriptive than "low, dark color, loud muffler". In this situation, the officer was wrong for one of two reasons. One, he had no reasonable suspicion to pull OP over. Two, if he was given an accurate description of OP and his car, the officer is required to tell him that.

Then go file a complaint on OPs behalf.

 

[oc_civic]

Okay let me rephrase what I said. They are not supposed to, meaning there are laws against, pulling you over without at least reasonable suspicion. This means that just because the OP has a modified car, they do not have the right to pull him over. If, however, someone described his car......which would need to be more descriptive than "low, dark color, loud muffler". In this situation, the officer was wrong for one of two reasons. One, he had no reasonable suspicion to pull OP over. Two, if he was given an accurate description of OP and his car, the officer is required to tell him that.

you are %100 wrong...

with the logic YOU are applying.. if there was a MASS SCHOOL SHOOTING.. where 40 kids were shot to death.. and the ONLY description they had was "dark van" i am %100 sure that EVERY dark van in the vicinity would get pulled over..

COPS CAN PULL YOU OVER TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION..

that could consist of something as simple as asking a couple questions.. writing a ticket.. etc.. the ONLY time it becomes an issue is if YOU ASK to leave and he CONTINUES to detain you with no reason.. detaining without cause... searching without cause.. those things ARE red flags.. but simply pulling someone over because their vehicles matches the general description of vehicles involved in illegal activity is NOT against the law...

judge "well why did you pull this car over"

officer "it matched the general description of the cars involved in illegal activity... it was in the same EXACT area.. and so on"

 

[oc_civic]

what MANY of you are MISSING is the following..

a COP through the course of an investigation CAN pull you over and ask you questions..

you do NOT have to answer them..

IF you say "am i under arrest? am i being detained?" and he answers NO then he HAS to release you, or write you a ticket....

obviously he can't pull you over and scream at you and be an a*****e.. btu that is obviously not what happened here..