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are ngk wires really worth paying 70 bucks?
 

ek forever guy

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Nope. The OEM sumitomo wires have proven to be BETTER than pretty much anything on the market. Smoother and marginally higher powerband.
 


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How much do they cost and where can I find them

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ek forever guy

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Ebay? The Honda dealer? Google?

OEM honda wires are not too difficult to find.

An OEM tuneup kit is about ~$80 on ebay, plenty of great dealers on there. Might as well do the whole tuneup.
 


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OEM or NGK, both good. Just don't get MSD lol.
 

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iv always ran ngk wires, along with ngk plugs, seemed to work just fine for me
 

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im running ngk plugs and wires in the mazda too
 

ek forever guy

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Of course you're all running just fine with X wires.

I'm simply stating that I've seen numerous Dyno charts over the years using new NGK, MSD, etc, and every time the 10 year old sumitomos did BETTER than the new performance wires.
 

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we all get what your saying but where would you even get them if you say ebay f**k that i will never trust anything from there but thats just my opinion.... and msd is crap on hondas imo.....
 

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Thnks for the info..i ended up getting NGK wires and plugs..they work alot better thn the cheap wires I had before...and about the oem I couldnt find them and I dont feel ebay is the beat dealer when it comes to buying car parts.

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Thinking about painting my si grill to color match my car which isTaffeta white...should I use honda touch up paint or mix it my self and use a gun...btw I know nothing about mixing paint but I know some ppl who do...i just want the best outcome.

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Of course you're all running just fine with X wires.

I'm simply stating that I've seen numerous Dyno charts over the years using new NGK, MSD, etc, and every time the 10 year old sumitomos did BETTER than the new performance wires.
Any proof or are we supposed to just trust some random guy on the net?

Porsche and Audi run NGK stock in all of their high end vehicles so they will do just fine for your Civic.
 

ek forever guy

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Any proof or are we supposed to just trust some random guy on the net?

Porsche and Audi run NGK stock in all of their high end vehicles so they will do just fine for your Civic.
You are not mistaken that there is nothing wrong with NGK, however Sumitomos have just proven to be the best thing out there period.

Here you go, the green line is the OEM Sumitomo:



http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=8680

vtec.net Article said:
The actual power outputs are not crucial and have been removed from the charts to make the comparison more straightforward. The most important point from the charts is that the stock spark-plug cables produced the highest and most consistent power curve. The most significant factor is the smoothness of the stock cable's power curve. Both the 'generic' 8mm silicon cable and the NGK were seen to be misfiring as evidenced by their jagged curves after 5000rpm and especially in the VTEC rpm band. Both 8mm silicon and NGK delivered about the same max power which is about 1ps lower than that produced by the stock cables. Note that the stock cables, although 8 years old, consistently produced better power all across the dynoed rpm band, 3000rpm till the 8000rpm red-line. Especially surprising is the fact that the stock cables did not misfire, thus proving that they produce more consistent sparks even compared to the brand new and supposedly superior NGK blue cables !
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Also, company history for Sumitomo:
http://www.sei.co.jp/sei_info_e/history/roots.html

company historic milestones:
http://www.sei.co.jp/sei_info_e/history/

proof of their involvement in the auto industry:
http://www.sei.co.jp/ewp/E/tenzikai_zyouho..._zyouhou_f.html

example of one of their spiral shielded wire products:
http://www.sei.co.jp/ewp/SEI_WEB/category/...frame_3_06.html

in conclusion: SUMITOMO ELECTRIC is 100000000000 times > NGK, nology, magnecor, etc...even > honda motor co.

@OP: Regarding the grill, find a nice local auto body shop to paint the trim. Remove the screws that hold the trim piece and just ask them to paint it with the proper paint code for taffeta. (Taffeta White NH-578)

You'll be a lot happier with a professional job. Buying the automotive paint and clear coat would run you around $60, that's what it cost me a few years ago. A shop should only charge you ~$50-80 and they'll probably do a lot better job than you will.
 

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Thinks for the advice..where i live there is a local paint shop that will mix the paint and put it in a spray can for u for around 20-30 bucks. thats what the guy at autozone told me. so im going to go there first and see if its legit. btw i need some opinions..im thinking of gettting some Drag DR-31 wheels( the ones that look like type r's) they come out to like 100 bucks a wheel but thats alot cheaper then buying Enkein racing Pro1's but i want good wheels not some bulls*** wheels.
 

ek forever guy

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Good wheels cost money. I had Konigs and Rotas before I bought my Volks, and I can tell you right now that I would spend $1400 on a set of Volks again in a heartbeat before I bought another set of knock-offs.

They are worth every damned penny of the extra money.

Not saying you need to spend that kind of money, but just buy some quality wheel. Find a good set of used SSRs, Volks, or something.
 


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