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SpeedTechnik

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I will disagree again, You can make a civic as fast as a 300zx easily, It's all about money. My integra will probably walk most 300zx's that pull up next to me unless they spent alot of money. If I pulled the motor out my teg and dropped it in my civic most things probably wouldn't touch it if I did the supporting mods because the weight difference in the 2 cars.

Also I just read you talking about "top lemans finisher" That's full on racecar. There's tons of different options to go with when you're talking about spending enough money to be a lemans race car. I was talking about street cars so disreguard, I guess.
X2 Any car can reach any height, all it needs is the right amount of effort and, of course,...money. Don't get caught up in the whole " which one is better" or "which one is faster" because it would just become a circular debate.

Also, OneFastGSR, you mentioned something that ties into what I said earlier. The "unless" part is another thing that plays a role in the gap between 300zxs and their owners. Yes, you can most likely pull up next to one and walk it, but it does not mean that they are loosing because you are faster...or that the battle is even fair. The truth is that most z owners wouldn't even bother. I don't mean any offense by it but Many of them have a completely different perspective/mindset, and these perspectives influence what they do with anything in their life. This mindset alone would be enough to decide the winner of the race before it even began; Which is why if you pulled up next to one, you would most likely win. Although this wouldn't be true every single time, it can be true for a good chunk of z owners; But there are z owners where it would be hard to even hold a candle to them.
 


SpeedTechnik

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* I'm sure most of what we are saying is going to be disregarded whether it is true or just hearsay; Which I had anticipated towards the beginning, Its why I said that it would all depend on what he wants rather than the pros and cons we give him.*

This is all most likely just wasted effort.
 


oh_aaron_

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I ride my civic hard. The engine is stock and I drive in the 100s daily I even drift with her every now and then. I just feel that I'm ready for something with more power. With the z it's almost perfect

Btw thanks for everyone's input this is really helpful to me
 
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TokyoSkies

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You're going to regret getting a 300zx. They are moneypits like crazy, and a humongous pain in the ass to work on. Once built right, they're great cars, but if they are neglected, things fail all over the place.
 

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I ride my civic hard. The engine is stock and I drive in the 100s daily I even drift with her every now and then. I just feel that I'm ready for something with more power. With the z it's almost perfect
Stop. (-_-)
 

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I ride my civic hard. The engine is stock and I drive in the 100s daily I even drift with her every now and then. I just feel that I'm ready for something with more power. With the z it's almost perfect
Drift a FWD car? Maybe get it sideways but you can't drift it. Maybe all you're doing is understeering and calling it drifting. But as stated above just stop that.
 

SpeedTechnik

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Drift a FWD car? Maybe get it sideways but you can't drift it. Maybe all you're doing is understeering and calling it drifting. But as stated above just stop that.
Correct. At best, under certain circumstances (which are extremely detrimental to a civic), it can uncontrollably slide (understeer); but by no means is it a drift. To Drift you must be in complete control over all aspects of the situation. As stated above though, this isn't the case and you should consider keeping certain things to yourself.
 

Failsafe88

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Can drift in reverse with some trays under the tires otherwise you need to stop playing video games thinking it's real life
 

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X2 Any car can reach any height, all it needs is the right amount of effort and, of course,...money. Don't get caught up in the whole " which one is better" or "which one is faster" because it would just become a circular debate.

Also, OneFastGSR, you mentioned something that ties into what I said earlier. The "unless" part is another thing that plays a role in the gap between 300zxs and their owners. Yes, you can most likely pull up next to one and walk it, but it does not mean that they are loosing because you are faster...or that the battle is even fair. The truth is that most z owners wouldn't even bother. I don't mean any offense by it but Many of them have a completely different perspective/mindset, and these perspectives influence what they do with anything in their life. This mindset alone would be enough to decide the winner of the race before it even began; Which is why if you pulled up next to one, you would most likely win. Although this wouldn't be true every single time, it can be true for a good chunk of z owners; But there are z owners where it would be hard to even hold a candle to them.
Yep, I've never actually pulled up beside anyone random and just took off as if it was race. It was just an example of what I was trying to say basically... There has been times i'd end up beside a friend and we'd go for shits and giggles though. Lol. At a drag strip a 300zx would have a good chance of winning if I was on street tires though cause i'd never hook up. If I had slicks it'd be different. But than if he had a built motor with alot of boost and slicks that's a different story. It all varies! Overall it all depends on who's driving, Who has built their car more, Who's tuned well, Tons of factors. All in all both cars can be really fast and fun to drive..
 

SpeedTechnik

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If you have to ask you probably can't afford it.
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Ok back to the plastics. If I were to overhaul the parts how much money we looking at
I have stated this before. I'll put it this way the second time around, if one has gone it is most likely a good idea to balance it out and change all of them before they go as well (because it will most likely be their time as well); This is to avoid any later catastrophes of course. With the amount of money you would have spent fixing all the "plastics", you would have already tuned your civic to the nearing of a 300zx performance. This isn't counting all the "non-plastics" that you will have to change/upgrade/etc. Estimates cannot even be given because we really do not know your budget or plans. Even then, I will say and assure you that the expenses on parts alone will wear your wallet down to a string *and this is if you're doing your own work and getting general/generic parts*, especially if you aren't ready and aren't thinking things through with a well orchestrated plan. I will also advice you that you can't cheap out on a 300zx, your chain is only as strong as your weakest link. This will hold true for a 300zx.
 

oh_aaron_

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Ok so how bout this kinda question. How much would it take to get my civic to almost z performance.

And to that other douche saying if I Gata ask I can't afford it. We aren't on ur corner dot use ur hooker talk. If u don't have an answer to help don't even get on this.
 

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They're different types of cars entirely, they won't ever perform the same. If you're talking about just power that's one thing but it all depends on the route you take. You should decide what type of car you would rather drive and go with it rather than focusing on an arbitrary performance goal.
 

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Ok so how bout this kinda question. How much would it take to get my civic to almost z performance.

And to that other douche saying if I Gata ask I can't afford it. We aren't on ur corner dot use ur hooker talk. If u don't have an answer to help don't even get on this.
A civic will never handle like a z. You can build up a civic to make the same hp to the wheels as a z, and perform similarly in a drag race. But z's are rear wheel drive, they can drift, slide, burnout, etc. Completely different ball game.

And he has a point saying if you have to ask you probably can't afford it. A complete overhaul of all the plastics, rubber seals, etc easily runs in the thousands if you go oem.
 

EJackBauer8

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Ok so how bout this kinda question. How much would it take to get my civic to almost z performance.

And to that other douche saying if I Gata ask I can't afford it. We aren't on ur corner dot use ur hooker talk. If u don't have an answer to help don't even get on this.
I get on whatever I want since this is a public forum. Besides if it wasn't me saying it would've been someone else, so stop getting butt hurt. It's a forum people will express their opinions so don't take people's opinions to heart.

You want some advice? Keep your civic and swap/turbo whatever to get it to z performance it'll be cheaper than buying a 300zx and it'll also be more practical.
 

Failsafe88

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Ok so how bout this kinda question. How much would it take to get my civic to almost z performance.

And to that other douche saying if I Gata ask I can't afford it. We aren't on ur corner dot use ur hooker talk. If u don't have an answer to help don't even get on this.
Ohh let the butt hurt begin you obviously have got mind set one way or the other from everything being said already and you are still asking petty questions. Why are people incapable of making decisions by themselves now a days and feel the need for someone to do all the research for them. Their is loads of information to be read up on price, stats, what this does, what that will do, how much this and that cost. Hell even the reliability of the products of your choosing...
 


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