5+min long Srt4 movie :)

[$lick Rick]

Originally posted by bklynEG
i respect that car for being as fast as it is for a neon. its just not my thing, thats all.

and you're right, the car isnt for everyone. some people will never own domestics and that's their personal choice. that doesnt mean it's not an awesome deal for the money or that it is a piece of crap. when people start talking about domestics like this they sound just as bad if not worse than domestic owners talking about civics.

 

[caddy]

Yeah they're fast, but think of the reason why Honda doesnt mass produce a turbo civic or integra. They spent their money into technology that matters more like effeciency, reliability, etc,. Someone can just stick a 350 into a datsun to make it stupid fast, but is that effecient? Or in this case, up the displacement to 2.4L and stick on a turbo and its fast. I mean if you think about it, you could pop in a b18c5 into an 5th gen hatch and stock its beating the neon with a much smaller displacement and no forced induction for even less cash. Ya the STi is more money but it has the backup of being proven time and again in WRC be being an excellent all around performer. It was never about a 1/4 mile slip, it was about the whole package. s**t, if a fast car in the 1/4 mile is what you want, buy a mustang GT and mod that.

 

[AFP520]

Originally posted by Magoots
Take a turd. A regular, crappy old turd.
Spend thousands of dollars on mods, weight reductions, make it look nice, make it fast as hell.
End of the day, its still a crappy old turd.

your an idiot man... maybe for you its a crappy old turd... im spending thousands of dollars, looks nice, and is fast as hell.. and at the end of the day.. its a polished turd

 

[$lick Rick]

it may or may not be a turd... either way, as long as it comes with a big fat warranty i'm ok with it or better yet... lease it AND get the warranty, that way you could run that bish into the ground then turn it back in after a couple years and if anything goes wrong in the meantime you're covered.

 

[$lick Rick]

Originally posted by caddy
Yeah they're fast, but think of the reason why Honda doesnt mass produce a turbo civic or integra. They spent their money into technology that matters more like effeciency, reliability, etc,. Someone can just stick a 350 into a datsun to make it stupid fast, but is that effecient? Or in this case, up the displacement to 2.4L and stick on a turbo and its fast. I mean if you think about it, you could pop in a b18c5 into an 5th gen hatch and stock its beating the neon with a much smaller displacement and no forced induction for even less cash. Ya the STi is more money but it has the backup of being proven time and again in WRC be being an excellent all around performer. It was never about a 1/4 mile slip, it was about the whole package. s**t, if a fast car in the 1/4 mile is what you want, buy a mustang GT and mod that.

THE SRT4 COSTS UNDER $20k!!! that's the point people seem to miss. you get slightly less performance than an sti FOR UNDER $20K. and even though it's not proven it still has a warranty, and seeing how the average length of a cars ownership is now under 4 years... get an extended warranty and you'll be covered till the day you say bye bye.

 

[$lick Rick]

Originally posted by caddy
Yeah they're fast, but think of the reason why Honda doesnt mass produce a turbo civic or integra. They spent their money into technology that matters more like effeciency, reliability, etc,. Someone can just stick a 350 into a datsun to make it stupid fast, but is that effecient? Or in this case, up the displacement to 2.4L and stick on a turbo and its fast. I mean if you think about it, you could pop in a b18c5 into an 5th gen hatch and stock its beating the neon with a much smaller displacement and no forced induction for even less cash. Ya the STi is more money but it has the backup of being proven time and again in WRC be being an excellent all around performer. It was never about a 1/4 mile slip, it was about the whole package. s**t, if a fast car in the 1/4 mile is what you want, buy a mustang GT and mod that.

THE SRT4 COSTS UNDER $20k!!! that's the point people seem to miss. you get slightly less performance than an sti FOR UNDER $20K. and even though it's not proven it still has a warranty, and seeing how the average length of a cars ownership is now under 4 years... get an extended warranty and you'll be covered till the day you say bye bye. say it with me now.... F A C T O R Y W A R R A N T Y. so lets recap... brand spanking new car with 230hp and already boosted (a boosted engine is soooooooo much easier and less expensive to squeeze hp out of than a n/a) with a kick ass warranty that will fix almost ANYTHING that goes wrong during your ownership all for thousands and thousands less then the comperable vehicle. what could be wrong with that? (besides it's a neon.. captain obvious has already stated this many many many times)

 

[caddy]

I know its under $20,000. That's my point. You can buy a brand new Mustang GT with 260hp, more torque and responds way better to mods, for about the same price. And stock performance numbers are pretty close too. Besides, they sound better and have been around for a while. Id take a reliable v8 over a neon 4banger any day

 

[$lick Rick]

i'd still take the boosted 4 banger but that might just be me. good job on finding a comperable deal though

 

[AFP520]

Originally posted by caddy
I know its under $20,000. That's my point. You can buy a brand new Mustang GT with 260hp, more torque and responds way better to mods, for about the same price. And stock performance numbers are pretty close too. Besides, they sound better and have been around for a while. Id take a reliable v8 over a neon 4banger any day

or you can buy a tacoma s-runner.. supercharge it.. and beat mustang gt's all day long i love it when their jaws drop cuz they just got beat by a pickup truck

 

[scottyfordy]

Oh, now V8s are reliable. I love the hypocracy that exists here.

 

[caddy]

Originally posted by scottyfordy
Oh, now V8s are reliable. I love the hypocracy that exists here.

Ha, I have nothing against domestics. I've been service manager for a while at a good sized automotive repair facility. And the good old 350s, 302s and many Buicks have been great (as long as their owners take car of them of course). It's the smaller displacement engines that PISS me off. Im sick of telling good customers that they need to rebuild their stupid windstar or taurus 3.8 liter... with not even 100,000 miles on it. Im sick of carvans throwing belts, getting seized tensioners and pulleys, blowing oil seals all over the fuqen place. Oh and Neons, i dont know where to begin. You shouldnt have to re-engineer an alternator mount on a car thats been in production for quite a few years now. And Suburbans! holy shite!!! Of course a lot of people are going to use suburbans for towing, but what GM wont tell you is that your radiator cant handle the excess thermal pressures and will blow within a year or two, and the fix for that? re-design the WHOLE front end. I could go on forever. Why am I an import fan? Mostly Honda and Toyota at that. I like forged crankshafts with perfect bearing clearance, not this cast iron crap. With blocks that can handle many times there rated horsepower. with superior cooling for high reving engines. And wonderfully balanced pistons, connecting rods and crankshafts. duel cam profiles to give me great gas mileage AND great performance (which MASS produced engine was the first to put out 100 hp per litre?). I like lighter cars that brakes quicker and have more nimble handling to avoid accidents. Sure more torque would be nice, but the good outweighs the bad.

Ya the V8's are reliable proven pushrod engines, but cmon, lets get some better technology in there that stays reliable. Lets get some dual cam profiles, some forged crankshafts, some stronger shot blocks, some multi valve heads with proper hardware that doesnt bind up, lets get some gaskets that dont leak oil every few thousand miles, lets get some better designed head flow, ignition systems that dont burn out after a bad rainstorm, some pulley bearings that doent seize up prematurely and throw belts.

Wow that's a long rant. I'm going to bed.

 

[StanghaterCivic]

they make an 04 Si i didnt know that, wtf does it look like?

 

[EM1_ProJect]

man that video was f**kin baddass. i dont like SRT-4's that much but the video makes them look so nice. some kid around here has one and he wanted to race my Si...i was like...."umm no??, what for, to waste my gas, and lose" only 220HP but...pretty quick

 

[$lick Rick]

Originally posted by caddy
I know its under $20,000. That's my point. You can buy a brand new Mustang GT with 260hp, more torque and responds way better to mods, for about the same price. And stock performance numbers are pretty close too. Besides, they sound better and have been around for a while. Id take a reliable v8 over a neon 4banger any day

i wouldnt go as far as to say mustangs respond better to mods... even you have to admit that it's alot easier and cheaper to squeeze hp out of a boosted engine with nothing but minor mods and a good tuning. this neon is nothing like any other neon on the market. only thing it shares is body and some wiring.

 

[$lick Rick]

Originally posted by xsolidzx
man that video was f**kin baddass. i dont like SRT-4's that much but the video makes them look so nice. some kid around here has one and he wanted to race my Si...i was like...."umm no??, what for, to waste my gas, and lose" only 220HP but...pretty quick

230hp and DAMN quick

 

[EM1_ProJect]

Originally posted by pop-n-fresh
230hp and DAMN quick

this kid Brad that my brother knows has one in black. He was in front of me and i rode his ass on purpose and he dropped a gear on me....thing took off, so i dropped a gear for fun and i might as well have been walking.

 

[$lick Rick]

Originally posted by xsolidzx
this kid Brad that my brother knows has one in black. He was in front of me and i rode his ass on purpose and he dropped a gear on me....thing took off, so i dropped a gear for fun and i might as well have been walking.

the first time i ever saw one i was riding in my friends 97 gsx eclipse, we were on the freeway doing 55 when one pulled up next to us with a bunch of teenagers hanging out the window revin, we reved back and they took fhe f@ck off... we didnt even bother trying to catch up. i have been drooling ever since.

 

[nellorific]

^ after reading all this, i suppose the SRT4 is great for the price its being sold as. I dont know so much about reliability because come on now, a car that quick for that cheap isn't so for no reason. they must have cut corners somewhere in order to be able to sell a car pumping that much power out to be under 20k. Sti's are so expensive because they have the means to be. All in all, you get what you pay for - my opinion.

 

[munky]

sweet vid. those cars are tight

 

[Rick James]

i know the srt-4 is a great deal but i wouldnt wana drive a neon no matter what