d15b7 del Sol starts then immediately dies

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I've never noticed something like that. :what:
 

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I think its just a crack in the exhaust manifold. Still trying to get the clamp off. Think I'm just gonna have to saw it off man, LOL... I got a short ram to throw on it anyways. But before I do, any last idea's to keep the oem intake arm in reusable condition? Thanks for your help btw young_
 


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Cleaned the IACV idle seems a lil better. But I know that isn't what is causing my car to start then die. Only happens when I'm low on gas and go to fill up, It's like this.... I go fill it up then start it up and it seems more like its sputters from idle to dying. Prime it two times then start it, it will start just fine! I hope it's not compression. I wanna take it in to the mechanic but I don't want him telling me its fuel pumo or something when it's not. HELP ME HONDA TECH! :whiner:
 

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Have you tried resetting the computer to re learn the idle? You can either pull the under hood ecu fuse, or disconnect the negative battery cable. This will erase your radio presets so write those down beforehand. Wait a few minutes and then reconnect the cable. Then crank the car and let it idle for a few minutes. Turn it off and crank it again after that.

It almost sounds like your fuel pump but I can't be sure
 


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Done that when I adjusted the idle screw. Did exactly what you said. But it did it just 2 days ago. I'll try to post a video next time it happens!

Side question i'm gonna replace the dizzy O-ring leaking all over the tranny... Wanted to know what happens if I turn it on accident can I just spin it 180* around again to point at the stock timing mark? I don't have a straight edge nor timing light or any fancy gadgets like that lol.
 

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This isn't the best way but I honestly just marked mine with a marker on the top of the distributor and valve cover, I just lined it back up and it wasn't an issue for me.
 

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Thanks. Do you think I should advance it a lil? Would I get more low end torque? Better MPG? PO put a exhaust on it.
 

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I, personally, wouldn't play with the timing unless I had a timing light.
 

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Yep. Its fuel related because I ran it on low (on purpose) went to shell had to be atleast a 1/4 of a gallon left. Put in 1 gallon as a test, it started up then died. Second attempt starts at 500 rpms then dies. Put in another gallon and it started right up. I put some techron injector cleaner in about 500 miles ago.

But is it the injectors or fuel pumo? Thanks everyone for the insight.
 

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Sounds to me more like the pump. I would troubleshoot fuel pump issues for your model.

In my experience with injector issues, the car won't run right when it finally does start running.
 

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Fuel pump doesn't like running that low because it can start to suck dirt and stuff into the fuel lines and start clogging up the filter. You can also test your fuel filter on the firewall by taking the line of the fuel rail and turning the key to on so that the fuel pump engages. If it doesn't come out in a consistent and steady flow, the filter could be clogged and making it hard for fuel to reach the rail
 

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While that test would work, the op needs to keep in mind that that's a huge fire hazard.
 

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While that test would work, the op needs to keep in mind that that's a huge fire hazard.
That's why you squirt the line into an enclosed jar. A gas can would work.
 

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Alright thanks guys, I'm aware, just gotta be careful. And if it passes that test what about the injectors? How could I test those with a fuel pressure regulator?
 

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Update: Wondering what the purpose of the valve cover to frame ground wire? It was really corroded and rusty wires hanging out of it. Replaced it with a new one from oreilly's. Cars been starting up fine, but I'm not gonna rule it out because it hasn't been 2 weeks yet.... Around the time it happens. So what does the valve cover to frame ground wire do? And if it was bad would it make the car start and die?
 

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Update: Wondering what the purpose of the valve cover to frame ground wire? It was really corroded and rusty wires hanging out of it. Replaced it with a new one from oreilly's. Cars been starting up fine, but I'm not gonna rule it out because it hasn't been 2 weeks yet.... Around the time it happens. So what does the valve cover to frame ground wire do? And if it was bad would it make the car start and die?

I don't think that would have done it, but that ground wire is there for a reason so it's always best to have it up and proper.
 

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Well, i'm starting to run out of options. I been trying to get hired for a job to support the car (broke kid), just feel like its gonna die and there's nothing I can do about it. Timing belt is WAY over due 139k... Snapping could happen any day now. And I have interviews for jobs every other day. I wanna pop the valve cover and hope for a miracle! New timing belt or at least fair looking, but PO didn't even know what a timing belt was! lol. You think I could stretch the belt job for about another 20k? Cause I just don't have the money now.
 

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I would get a visual of the belt and look for weathering and wear.
 

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....You think I could stretch the belt job for about another 20k? Cause I just don't have the money now.
I wouldn't risk it, then again I wouldn't be in that situation. My maintenance is ALWAYS done when it is due or well before. Always has been with all my vehicles. NEVER been stranded on account of my OWN vehicle and have been driving for ~19 years.

Either do it or hope that friends and family can drive you around when it fails. Your call. It's part of growing up and owning a vehicle. Either take care of it or it will leave you stranded and you will be paying more money that you would have if you would have done it before it failed.
 

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Update: Wondering what the purpose of the valve cover to frame ground wire? It was really corroded and rusty wires hanging out of it. Replaced it with a new one from oreilly's. Cars been starting up fine, but I'm not gonna rule it out because it hasn't been 2 weeks yet.... Around the time it happens. So what does the valve cover to frame ground wire do? And if it was bad would it make the car start and die?
Won't exactly hinder starting. Its there to provide another ground. You should have at least three ounds around the engine. One off the VC, one off the thermostat housing, and one off the transmission. The one that causes the starting issues is the thermostat ground. Its the ground for the ignition system. If its corroded or broke, it will cause a no start condition.

Happened to me one time when I installed a new thermostat and forgot to tighten the ground back down.
 


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