How To: Ground Wire Replacement For Your Civic

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hey gabe .. that s**t is tight .. im not a wiring genius either .. you think you could get more pictures ? i cant tell everywhere you are groudning too .. but then again im a dubmass ...
 

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RiceburnerRyan said:
hey gabe .. that s**t is tight .. im not a wiring genius either .. you think you could get more pictures ? i cant tell everywhere you are groudning too .. but then again im a dubmass ...
That's what the green circles are for. I'll take some more pictures tonight or tomorrow...sit tight...I'm gonna change a few things up first too.
 


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thoes ground wire kits on ebay.
good or bad or should i do up my own.
 

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It's nothing special really. Just get ahold of some copper wire and run your own. You shouldn't have to pay a shitload for this lil DIY
 


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if i where to run it all to the battery's ground how many feet do you think ill need?
and do i link all the grounds togeather?
 

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yeah, link em together, this is the diagram I followed, (from anekin007) and it made a huge difference over just replacing stock grounds to chassis.





I'm telling you guys, wiring it this way makes a big difference.
 

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green .. you are my savior :worthy: .. thats what i wanted .. something like that .. but should you replace more than those wires ? or ... no .. ??
 

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No worries man, I had the same problem, the kit i got was in japanese, so i was like uhhh, but yeah, i will stress again, the key to the grounding kit giving any useful gains is daisy chaining your wires, so the current flows through the wires and not the chassis. I would ground as many things as possible, but I ran out of wire and I'm really lazy. My car feels awesome though, so i'm really happy.
 

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wow is it just me or is that pic all sorts for back wards?
and your saying i only need thoes 5 wires or the more the better
 

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the diagram is not specifically for a civic, it's a "universal" diagram. Just follow the general Idea, and yeah, ground whatever you can, it won't hurt.
 

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any advice on what wire to buy and how many feet i should buy. im gonna do this tomorrow

do you all think this made you faster?
 

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bad6as said:
any advice on what wire to buy and how many feet i should buy. im gonna do this tomorrow
I'm pretty sure that's been covered previously in the thread, I couldn't tell you because I got a kit and it is real high quality with gold plated connectors(jdm).

do you all think this made you faster?
gained when replacing stock grounds in thier orginal placement:

smoother idle.

gained when daisy chaining them to one central location (neg battery ground)

smoother idle.
(this is my opinion, verified by my friends as well)
hp and torque gain. ( i swear my car feels different!)
vtec pulls harder
accleration is smoother

I wish I could prove it with a dyno, oh well.
 

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gained when daisy chaining them to one central location (neg battery ground)
i'm sorry but i wanna clarify daisy chaining. do you mean every single ground point is hooked up to the battery? (bat to head, bat to trans, bat to intake, bat to alt, etc) or do you mean you connect them all to each other and none get connected to the actual body. haha do you know what i mean?
 

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Mahlmann said:
i'm sorry but i wanna clarify daisy chaining. do you mean every single ground point is hooked up to the battery? (bat to head, bat to trans, bat to intake, bat to alt, etc) or do you mean you connect them all to each other and none get connected to the actual body. haha do you know what i mean?

Yeah I'm confused on the term daisy chaining. I think by looking at the diagram it means connecting all the cables together by the terminals, so they're stacked up on one another. And it runs that way back ot the battery where the chain ends? But is there a certain place where it should begin lol (i.e. battery)?

Is this correct.
 

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Yeah I'm confused on the term daisy chaining. I think by looking at the diagram it means connecting all the cables together by the terminals, so they're stacked up on one another. And it runs that way back ot the battery where the chain ends? But is there a certain place where it should begin lol (i.e. battery)?

Is this correct.
Correct...start at the negative (-) battery terminal.
 

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gabebauman said:
Correct...start at the negative (-) battery terminal.
Did you ever replace the ground to your neg battery terminal, from the pic it doesn't look like you did, and why are some of your cables red and some black? Nice job eitherway, looks clean.

Also is there a specific gauge of wire you should use when redoing the neg batt terminal ground?

Okay I'm gonna try to lay this out, what about this set up.

Starting with a new cable from the neg battery terminal, you take the end of that cable and ground it to the chassis, and on that you stack the terminal from your first ground, and link it to all the following ones by their ground points , until you get to your last cable. Now from there should you take the end terminal of that last cable and ground it to the chasis, or should you create another cable to stack on it, and run it back to the neg terminal ground point, so it's like a huge circle lol?
 

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Ok after you finish readin that hoopla I just wrote, from looking at that diagram that Green supplied, I came to a conclusion, but correct me if I'm wrong.

You know how in the last post I was wondering whether you should ground your last cable to the chassis or whether you should link it to another cable and run it back to the neg terminal ground. Well if you ground it to the chassis, wouldn't it be the same thing since the neg battery terminal is already grounded to the chasis. Maybe that puts to rest my question of "why that diagram has to chassis grounds". I guess one to beign the circle and one to end. Right?
 

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WardsWarrior said:
Did you ever replace the ground to your neg battery terminal, from the pic it doesn't look like you did, and why are some of your cables red and some black? Nice job eitherway, looks clean.

Also is there a specific gauge of wire you should use when redoing the neg batt terminal ground?
I used 8 gauge wire and the 8 gauge ring connectors came in a packs of two, one red and one black (got the stuff from Radio Shack)
 

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The simplest way I can say to do it is, yeah, like gabebauman said, start or end with neg battery ground. You can stack wires together (daisy chain). For example, I started at the valve cover (left upper corner) and routed that wire straight to
the tranny. From the tranny I then went to neg-battery ground. Hope this helps. The diagram is a little confusing, I just followed the general idea.
 

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ok i did this to day i used 4 gauge from the neg on the batterty to the chassie. used 8 gauge on these
bottom right valve cover to chassie
trans to chassie
bottom right valve cover to im
trans to chassie to where it meets up w/ the neg from the battery
dident fell any differance but im gonna get some more wire and do some more
 


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