well well, if it isnt allblacksi, we meet again, haha, good thing i told u about that car so u could get that sweetness, just so everyone knows in this forum i am very jealous of this car, its freakin clean as hell, and its very quick, you could say im allblacksi's technical consultant :-D its a VERY strong motor, pretty sure the computer has been chipped, dont know by who though, also skunk coilovers and camber kits F/R, DC intake and header with 2.5" piping all the way back to the stock civic axle back section, and about the sleeperness of it, in this town the kids around here wouldnt notice a 5 lug hatch if it punched them in the face, the only thing they notice are the body kits and neons. so he does have a nice little sleeper on his hands