SI Type R??

[daboyu978]

Eran's car has a B18B1..... so what kind of car does that make his then?

The motor does not make the car.

its called civic ls swap..without the motor ur car aint moving without a tow lol

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Eran's car has a B18B1..... so what kind of car does that make his then?

The motor does not make the car.

Also literally speaking.. the motor DOES make the car

 

[nukedawhalez]

I personally love the car. I was gonna buy a Yellow EK coupe, but I thought it was too ricey. :\

Is that an actually ITR spoiler on that car. Man this car is ssssiiiccckk.

 

[NOFX]

There are exceptions

A motor can make a car fast or slow. It does not change what the car is. If you put a Type R motor into a Civic CX it does not make that CX a Type R. If you blow the motor in your Si and put a D16Y7 in it it doesn't make your Si a DX.

It's still what Honda originally manufactured it as.

so then its a integra ls powered cx hatch...i dunno im high

You got it right. It has a swap. But it's still a CX. It's just a CX with an LS swap. Bottom line being it's still a CX.

Just like say you're getting a swap done in an LX sedan. You've decided to put the B16B from the CTR in it. now, you drive in with an LX sedan. Then they remove the D16Y7. What is the car then with no motor? Now they put the B16B in it. Now what is it? It's an LX sedan coming in, it's an LX sedan when it's without a motor, and it's an LX sedan (with a B16B swap) when it leaves.

its called civic ls swap..without the motor ur car aint moving without a tow lol

I didn't say it would or wouldn't move. I think it's obvious it won't move by it's own power if it has no motor. Swapping motors doesn't change the designation of your car though. You can put an LS1 in your car. It's not a Corvette, Camaro or Firebird though. You can put in a CTR motor and cover your car in Type R stickers and it still won't ever be a Type R. The most you could ever make a USDM Civic (of the correct year) would be a Civic Type R *replica*.

Just like Yenko Camaro replicas are still replicas. They might have the same specs and be just as fast but they're still not real Yenkos.

 

[daboyu978]

A motor can make a car fast or slow. It does not change what the car is. If you put a Type R motor into a Civic CX it does not make that CX a Type R. If you blow the motor in your Si and put a D16Y7 in it it doesn't make your Si a DX.

It's still what Honda originally manufactured it as.

You got it right. It has a swap. But it's still a CX. It's just a CX with an LS swap. Bottom line being it's still a CX.

Just like say you're getting a swap done in an LX sedan. You've decided to put the B16B from the CTR in it. now, you drive in with an LX sedan. Then they remove the D16Y7. What is the car then with no motor? Now they put the B16B in it. Now what is it? It's an LX sedan coming in, it's an LX sedan when it's without a motor, and it's an LX sedan (with a B16B swap) when it leaves.

I didn't say it would or wouldn't move. I think it's obvious it won't move by it's own power if it has no motor. Swapping motors doesn't change the designation of your car though. You can put an LS1 in your car. It's not a Corvette, Camaro or Firebird though. You can put in a CTR motor and cover your car in Type R stickers and it still won't ever be a Type R. The most you could ever make a USDM Civic (of the correct year) would be a Civic Type R *replica*.

Just like Yenko Camaro replicas are still replicas. They might have the same specs and be just as fast but they're still not real Yenkos.

LOL!! still didnt listen, i said its a civc type r swap

 

[NOFX]

LOL!! still didnt listen, i said its a civc type r swap

I was talking about the title of the thread.

Later, after I mentioned it was neither an Si or a Type R, you tried to defend it by pointing out the motor it had, which I was aware of. Now, that makes it sounds like you're saying that I'm wrong in saying it's not an Si or a Type R because it has the Type R motor. i was simply saying that no matter what motor it has, it's still the original trim that Honda assigned to it.

You only pointed out, "CTR MOTOR though B16B," which doesn't equate to saying, "Yes, I know it's neither a Civic Si or Civic Type R, but it does have the Civic Type R swap (B16B) under the hood." And either way, tat wouldn't make it an Si or a Type R still.

Who doesn't listen now? I don't know why you have such a huge problem with me, but damn you seem to try hard to point out that I'm wrong.

 

[cole]

I like it,but wouldn't drive it. That thing is asking to get stolen

im sure if someone put that much time and money in there car there not going to park it on the street "not like it cant get stolen from a garadge but you know what i mean " also im sure hondas dont get stolen where hes from liek they do here in the us

 

[snozepp147]

i'm sure if someone in thailand saw that nice car sitting on the street they wouldn't think twice about stealing it.


and why must we argue about what to call a car. cars with swapped engines are hybrids therefore they don't have an official "name." Yes the most obvious thing to call a Civic with a b18c1 would a be civic since it's easier to tell by looking at the exterior that it's a civic. However since the engine is from a GSR it's not completely a Civic because it doesn't have the same engine the car came with from the factory.

Why don't we just agree that swapped cars can be called anything:
a gsr civic, a gsr swapped civic, a civic with a gsr engine, a b18c1 civic, etc. etc.

They're all describing the same thing, even more descriptive than just calling it a civic because if you include the engine type, people know more about the car.

However it would be wrong to call a B18c1 swapped civic a GSR because upon first appearance it's not a gsr, and the only thing that's GSR about it is the engine.


So yeah...

 

[mint]

lol i think this dude is someone who is gonna keep poppin up now and again, wasnt that long since i was asing lol

 

[NOFX]

i'm sure if someone in thailand saw that nice car sitting on the street they wouldn't think twice about stealing it.


and why must we argue about what to call a car. cars with swapped engines are hybrids therefore they don't have an official "name." Yes the most obvious thing to call a Civic with a b18c1 would a be civic since it's easier to tell by looking at the exterior that it's a civic. However since the engine is from a GSR it's not completely a Civic because it doesn't have the same engine the car came with from the factory.

Why don't we just agree that swapped cars can be called anything:
a gsr civic, a gsr swapped civic, a civic with a gsr engine, a b18c1 civic, etc. etc.

They're all describing the same thing, even more descriptive than just calling it a civic because if you include the engine type, people know more about the car.

However it would be wrong to call a B18c1 swapped civic a GSR because upon first appearance it's not a gsr, and the only thing that's GSR about it is the engine.


So yeah...

So then what about an Integra with a B16A? Or into a Civic? What is it called then? And notice the common factor in the names you called the Civic with the GSR swap.... you called it a Civic. Now, whatever trim that car originally was it still is. The trim of a car isn't just determined by the motor it has (why name some sedans with D16Y7s LXs and some DXs then for example).

 

[snozepp147]

So then what about an Integra with a B16A? Or into a Civic? What is it called then? And notice the common factor in the names you called the Civic with the GSR swap.... you called it a Civic. Now, whatever trim that car originally was it still is. The trim of a car isn't just determined by the motor it has (why name some sedans with D16Y7s LXs and some DXs then for example).

we're saying the same thing.

I'd call an integra with a b16a an integra to non-honda enthusiast but if i were at a honda meet and someone asked what kind of car i had i'd say i have a B16 integra or a swapped teg or an integra with a B16.

Just like the trim, the engine becomes a way of further explaining your car in detail to people:
For example: I have a civic ex is more descriptive than saying I have a civic

Just like: I have a B16 civic or I have a GSR civic is more descriptive than just saying I have a civic

lol i think this dude is someone who is gonna keep poppin up now and again, wasnt that long since i was asing lol

are you talking about me?

 

[NOFX]

we're saying the same thing.

I'd call an integra with a b16a an integra to non-honda enthusiast but if i were at a honda meet and someone asked what kind of car i had i'd say i have a B16 integra or a swapped teg or an integra with a B16.

Just like the trim, the engine becomes a way of further explaining your car in detail to people:
For example: I have a civic ex is more descriptive than saying I have a civic

Just like: I have a B16 civic or I have a GSR civic is more descriptive than just saying I have a civic


are you talking about me?

Ehh... you don't *quite* get what I'm saying. I'm not saying even so far as continue calling it a Civic (I can hope most are smart enough to know it's still always a Civic no matter what you try to make it look like). I said the photo in the first post is not a photo of an Si or a Type R. It's some trim.... but it's neither of those (unlikely to be the Si since it's a US only model, though it might be another EM1 trim).

I'm saying that no matter what you want to call your Civic EX... no matter what motor swaps into it, it will still always be an EX. I'm going beyond "Civic", I'm saying the trim will always stay the same.

A CX will always be a CX, a DX will always be a DX, an LX will always be an LX, an HX will always be an HX, an EX will always be an EX, a GX will always be a GX and an Si will always be an Si. Short of maybe melting it down... it's still going to be whatever trim Honda said it is. The VIN will not change (EJ6, EJ7, EJ8, EM1, EN1) and the designation will not change. It can be a conversion or replica, that's all.

I can put an Integra rear conversion, Accord front conversion, Si suspension, CR-V motor, RSX steering wheel, Integra Type R seats and Civic Type R dash... and my car will still be a Civic ***EX***.

i'm stressing the trim here stays the same. Of course the model does. (Problem being hatches, coupes and sedans come in different trims but still all look like Civics, so some people might want to call a Civic by what it appears to be or has the parts of just because they don't think of what Honda already decided it is.)

 

[NOFX]

are you talking about me?

I think he's talking about the owner of the car, who has been here for some time and seems to come back every few months or so.

 

[snozepp147]

yeah, like i said i don't want to get into an argument about it.

people just call that yellow one an Si or Type R because it's easier than saying Oh that's an Ex with such and such motor and CTR seats, dash, steering wheel, blah blah blah.

but yes it's still a Civic Ex.....or whatever the yellow one is i dont even remember.

 

[NOFX]

yeah, like i said i don't want to get into an argument about it.

people just call that yellow one an Si or Type R because it's easier than saying Oh that's an Ex with such and such motor and CTR seats, dash, steering wheel, blah blah blah.

but yes it's still a Civic Ex.....or whatever the yellow one is i dont even remember.

It's in Malaysia or something. I'd just title it something like, "Yellow coupe?" Brings more helpful attention this way too imo.

 

[Going-West]

 

[snozepp147]

It's in Malaysia or something. I'd just title it something like, "Yellow coupe?" Brings more helpful attention this way too imo.

haha yeah it's in Thailand.... is there a Thailand Domestic Motors? t-spec civic

 

[NOFX]

Okay, so I figured out they have a 6G EX coupe equivalent at least (not quite sure of the name though). And I think Thailand also has the VTi (though I'm not sure of the motor). That's about all. Most of the Thai sites have at least some English on them.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

There are exceptions where an engine did make the car what it is

 

[Destroy]

A CX will always be a CX, a DX will always be a DX, an LX will always be an LX, an HX will always be an HX, an EX will always be an EX, a GX will always be a GX and an Si will always be an Si. Short of maybe melting it down... it's still going to be whatever trim Honda said it is. The VIN will not change (EJ6, EJ7, EJ8, EM1, EN1) and the designation will not change. It can be a conversion or replica, that's all.

I can put an Integra rear conversion, Accord front conversion, Si suspension, CR-V motor, RSX steering wheel, Integra Type R seats and Civic Type R dash... and my car will still be a Civic ***EX***.