Didn't find one of these on the search, so here goes...
So, taking in mind the price, the quality, the effects on the engine, and the power which would be better, or is it all a matter of opinion.
I used to think that, regarding nitrous, you couldn't get a bigger bang for your buck. But recently, after doing some research with my mechanic, I think turbochargers (although a but more pricey), are far superior to just nitrous. Lets look at why...
Nitrous is a set modification, meaning you after the install you can't really change the amount of nitrous that is used (50, 80, 100 shot etc...). Also, you have to refill it, which means you'll never pay off the modification, you will keep having to pay to use it. Which also means, you won't have it when you need it sometimes. And at around 5-6 dollars a pound, that will add up real quick. Another reason being, it is a mod that is not instant, not to say that a turbo is because of lag, but meaning you have to open the bottle, and wait for it to warm up to avoid detonation. Again, you won't always have it when you need it. There are other downsides also, but lets not forget the good sides, when you floor it your gonna go fast...hahaha.
Lets look at Turbo...
One time thing. You pay the price to have it and you have it. Stock maybe 6-7 psi, but with little mods, not necassarily building up the bottom end, you can boost in upwards of 12-14 psi, perhaps 16 psi at most, depending on turbo and the safety of the install. But with that little "built in wastegate" that most turbo kits have, 15-16 is tops. However, with the little mods, (intercooler, bov, thin head gasket, head studs, injectors, boost controller etc...), you can up the boost which means more power. Another plus is, after a certain rpm, the power is really uncomparable, despite the lag. Efficiency is another, with a turbo it really doesnt matter what engine its strapped on to. Look at the Dodge Neons, that engine is horrible, but the cars are damn fast. Which means its a good mod to do to vehicles that want power with the original engine (ls, d series, etc...). Safety, most mechanic shops are not the best at safely installing nitrous kits. The place I go to, RaVer Motorsports, charges about minimum for a nitrous install about 2,000 dollars. May seem steep, but its not as expensive as a new engine, after you blow yours up due to a faulty nitrous install. And there work shows for it. Not to say that you can't blow an engine due to a turbo, but it's less likely. Power, nitrous gives you power, but turbo will give you more. It's been proven many times, dyno charts, races...whatever. You all know it, haha.
If anyone has any info to add to the list go ahead...
My plans:
Hondata S100B (with boost) - already have, not installed
ARP Head Studs
Mugen Thin Head Gasket
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler (the big one
)
Greddy Turbo kit, smog legal... (just for the tests, I live in Cali)
550 cc injectors
BOV, not sure of brand, havent done research yet
Tuned the hell out of...
I plan to get about 240 @ the wheels, out of my B16 with no internals, and not built bottom end...any suggestions about the setup are welcome...
So, taking in mind the price, the quality, the effects on the engine, and the power which would be better, or is it all a matter of opinion.
I used to think that, regarding nitrous, you couldn't get a bigger bang for your buck. But recently, after doing some research with my mechanic, I think turbochargers (although a but more pricey), are far superior to just nitrous. Lets look at why...
Nitrous is a set modification, meaning you after the install you can't really change the amount of nitrous that is used (50, 80, 100 shot etc...). Also, you have to refill it, which means you'll never pay off the modification, you will keep having to pay to use it. Which also means, you won't have it when you need it sometimes. And at around 5-6 dollars a pound, that will add up real quick. Another reason being, it is a mod that is not instant, not to say that a turbo is because of lag, but meaning you have to open the bottle, and wait for it to warm up to avoid detonation. Again, you won't always have it when you need it. There are other downsides also, but lets not forget the good sides, when you floor it your gonna go fast...hahaha.
Lets look at Turbo...
One time thing. You pay the price to have it and you have it. Stock maybe 6-7 psi, but with little mods, not necassarily building up the bottom end, you can boost in upwards of 12-14 psi, perhaps 16 psi at most, depending on turbo and the safety of the install. But with that little "built in wastegate" that most turbo kits have, 15-16 is tops. However, with the little mods, (intercooler, bov, thin head gasket, head studs, injectors, boost controller etc...), you can up the boost which means more power. Another plus is, after a certain rpm, the power is really uncomparable, despite the lag. Efficiency is another, with a turbo it really doesnt matter what engine its strapped on to. Look at the Dodge Neons, that engine is horrible, but the cars are damn fast. Which means its a good mod to do to vehicles that want power with the original engine (ls, d series, etc...). Safety, most mechanic shops are not the best at safely installing nitrous kits. The place I go to, RaVer Motorsports, charges about minimum for a nitrous install about 2,000 dollars. May seem steep, but its not as expensive as a new engine, after you blow yours up due to a faulty nitrous install. And there work shows for it. Not to say that you can't blow an engine due to a turbo, but it's less likely. Power, nitrous gives you power, but turbo will give you more. It's been proven many times, dyno charts, races...whatever. You all know it, haha.
If anyone has any info to add to the list go ahead...
My plans:
Hondata S100B (with boost) - already have, not installed
ARP Head Studs
Mugen Thin Head Gasket
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler (the big one
)Greddy Turbo kit, smog legal... (just for the tests, I live in Cali)
550 cc injectors
BOV, not sure of brand, havent done research yet
Tuned the hell out of...
I plan to get about 240 @ the wheels, out of my B16 with no internals, and not built bottom end...any suggestions about the setup are welcome...
for day to day driveablity Nitrous Oxide is the way to go. Armed and open you got power. Off and you're just riding around with a little less trunk space. You want on demand? Get a remote bottle opener. Armed and open, and ON. NOS is crap though. The solenoids are always wearing out and fuel pressure is increased by restricting the flow of the fuel which increases the pressure but lowers the volume. If you got the money look into Venom or Zex