i think it'd be great for you to do that and i certainly would hope that the intelligent mods would sticky it so the first thing that comes up is CORRECT info before you have to pick through all of this bullshit that is floating around.if i had time id write up some stuff,however thats not the case.....so go for it dude! 8)Inigo Montoya said:
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btw heres a little rant on why a FMU is s**t.
the only thing an fmu does is increase fuel pressure at the injectors.well,if you have a stock fuel pump,its not gonna be able to keep up with the fmu anyways.but if you do,and still have stock injectors,yeah the pressure is sending it to the injectors but they arent gonna be able to spray out enough to keep up.fuel produces optimal power when atomized,it ignites much better than raw fuel will,and the higher the fuel pressure is the less atomization occurs.as someone once said on HMT,think of it like a can of hairspray, if you take the can of hairspray and hold a lighter in front of it and push the nozzle, an atomized mist of hairspray shoots out and makes a big fireball. ff you take that same can of hair spray, spray it on the ground in a puddle, it'll burn...but not nearly like the first time.fmu's are out dated devices used by muscle car guys with carbs bc they were too stupid to write a new program for their ecu.
now,afc hacks are equally as bad,they cant control fuel/spark appropriatly.but i think inigo covered that quite nicely.
and last but not least,retard your timing please.
so if you STILL continue to think that a afc hack/fmu is ULTIMATLY better than a chipped ecu,you are sadly mistakened and will more than likely learn the hard way.ok ive spent entirely too much time and thinking on this post.so take my suggestions or try your own.but what do i know?
the only thing an fmu does is increase fuel pressure at the injectors.well,if you have a stock fuel pump,its not gonna be able to keep up with the fmu anyways.but if you do,and still have stock injectors,yeah the pressure is sending it to the injectors but they arent gonna be able to spray out enough to keep up.fuel produces optimal power when atomized,it ignites much better than raw fuel will,and the higher the fuel pressure is the less atomization occurs.as someone once said on HMT,think of it like a can of hairspray, if you take the can of hairspray and hold a lighter in front of it and push the nozzle, an atomized mist of hairspray shoots out and makes a big fireball. ff you take that same can of hair spray, spray it on the ground in a puddle, it'll burn...but not nearly like the first time.fmu's are out dated devices used by muscle car guys with carbs bc they were too stupid to write a new program for their ecu.
now,afc hacks are equally as bad,they cant control fuel/spark appropriatly.but i think inigo covered that quite nicely.
and last but not least,retard your timing please.
so if you STILL continue to think that a afc hack/fmu is ULTIMATLY better than a chipped ecu,you are sadly mistakened and will more than likely learn the hard way.ok ive spent entirely too much time and thinking on this post.so take my suggestions or try your own.but what do i know?
Just want to say i agree with everything else you've said up till this post. a quick little background of me im running a y7/y8 mini-me with a completely custom kit running obd1 uber. everything was done by my own two hands. ok back to what i wanted to point out.Inigo Montoya said:
you were comparing costs of using "the hack" and going with a chipped ecu. but you forgot that after you've 'chipped' your ecu you need to get it tuned. otherwise a 10 dollar basemap is gonna be only slightly better than the hack if it was done safely. dyno tuning would run about 300 (thats what i'm lookin at for my local tuner) for a full tune but obviously you can go shorter or do street tuning which is usually less since it doesn't tie up dyno time.
if you wanted to tune yourself the least you would need is a wideband 02 which is 250 for the plx 300 i think. 250 or 275 not sure. data logging is another tuning tool and is cheap. 10 for the cable(if you can still find the nokia radio shack cable which i happend to have snaged the last one at my local rad shack) and then a simple 4pin header on your ecu or solder the cable right to the board.
you said with the extra 89 dollars you could buy a couple ecu's.... the cheapest i've ever seen a p28 was 80 and that was through a friend. granted p06's are cheaper but i still doubt you'd be able to get more than one with just 89 bucks.
but anyways that was about the only thing i didn't fully agree with. everything else looks good
safe and happy boosting to all
-Luke
^^in a way you are right,i agree.however heres what i want to point out.
yes,it may be a little bit more after the tune (chipped ecu VS afc hack) however,i dont see why anyone would want to sacrifice their motor,and reliability for a little extra money.to me,if you have the money to boost,you should have money to tune and do it right,and if you dont,then you have no need to be boosting.
yes,it may be a little bit more after the tune (chipped ecu VS afc hack) however,i dont see why anyone would want to sacrifice their motor,and reliability for a little extra money.to me,if you have the money to boost,you should have money to tune and do it right,and if you dont,then you have no need to be boosting.
oh i mean i fully support going with a chipped ecu program like uber, crome, crome pro, neptune etc etc
i just wanted to add in that you need to get tuned or tune yourself. you can't just chip it and be done.
CHIPPED ECU FOR TEH WIN!
i just wanted to add in that you need to get tuned or tune yourself. you can't just chip it and be done.
CHIPPED ECU FOR TEH WIN!
Agree completely. However isn't it a moot point considering you *should* tune any turbo setup, whether it be standalone, chip, or hack?lkailburn said:
And as far as getting ECU's goes.. I find p28's for $50-100 and p05/p06's for $10-50.
well i m just saying thats why ppl use the hack cuz they can just punch in a percentage and off they go.and the fmu they just hook it up and go..
but anyways we both know whats best. if you make that writeup it'll help out alot of the noobs.
and damn good finds on the ecu's. pull em from a junkyard or something?
but anyways we both know whats best. if you make that writeup it'll help out alot of the noobs.
and damn good finds on the ecu's. pull em from a junkyard or something?
yards... meets... forums... trades.. occassionally eGay.lkailburn said:
sometimes I wonder if they're stolen.... *shrug* nothing I can do about that though.