How would a GSR prevail on power? If you drop the compression on the B18C1 as low as the B18B1 (which can still be lowered a tad) you think you will still be making 170 horse? I would just spend like 1000 dollars less and get a B18B1 then port n polish the head....and you will be set to run 8 pounds all day long on factory internals. The only reason I would port n polish would be so the head flows as well as the GSR...
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then how come at factor x, there is 618 hp gsr, with NO nos. oh ya, its a street driven car with full interior. i pesonally haven't seen a ls produce that. i don't even think tony fuchs produced that much power in his turboed ls.
damn a gsr wit 618hp...i can only dream
hah...i havent seen anyone use the flag yet...i like it
Ever heard of cheese frog? Ever seen him hang with a 10 second viper? The B18C1 is a good motor if your planning on boost later on, and want some power for the mean time. The B18B1 is a great motor for those who want to go turbo as soon as money allows. IMO...I would just spend less initialy and get the B18B1 and have more money for a turbo kit. Also explain to me how a B18C1 would in the long run produce more power?
Aight, how about everybody that reads this gimme some good websites (other than ebay) that would sell me a good engine (new or used), cheapest prices wanted...
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thanx guys, please... keep em comin!
so abut how much hp would a b18b have with 8lbs of boost compared to a b18c1 stock
would the b18b with 8lbs of boost be fun enough to compromise the vtec?
My friend with a 96 white del sol with a heavy body kit, heavy 17's, and a big arse wing was smoken B18C1 coupes and hatches alike (non-turbo) with 8lbs of boost on his B18B1...with a Quaife LSD. He was making 200+ wheel horse...before he over boosted and messed up his pistons. Thats with a T3-T4 turbo. No engine mods at all...just the turbo kit, the complete swap, and the LSD. Of course he had a different clutch.
so i guess b18b1 is the way to go!
but if u did a b18c1 and boost it, it would kill the b18b boosted...and plus it has vtec...
i am looking into swapping and later on when i have enough money, i wanna boost...so im thinking the b18c1 for now then boost it, however the b18b has no vtec wires to wire, and has lower compression and is cheaper than the b18c1.
what do u guys think?
i am looking into swapping and later on when i have enough money, i wanna boost...so im thinking the b18c1 for now then boost it, however the b18b has no vtec wires to wire, and has lower compression and is cheaper than the b18c1.
what do u guys think?
i thought u were disagreeing with me when i said the b18c is a better choice than the b18b
so u claim bs. ok then, then call up mikey from Factor X, yourself. (702) 644-Fast. yes, thats the # at the las vegas motor speedway. or you can pick up the October 2003 issue of Honda Tunning. its the red eg, with teh white rims. sorry to dissapoint all who doubt me, but i don't b.s. no reason too. can't stand posers who do, so happy readingOriginally posted by anfrey
i like the bs flag more than the bs smiley
Dood....did you read anything of what I said? With a B18C1 you have a higher compression ratio and therefore can not run as much boost as a motor (B18B1) with a lower compression ratio. If you boost a stock B18C1 as much as stock B18B1 at it's max factory boost limits...your gonna f**k up the B18C1. The compression ratio for a B18C1 is 10.0:1, and the compression ratio for a B18B1 is 9.2:1. People will argue that a B18C1's head flows better...and it does. But with all that money you saved getting a B18B1....go get a port n polish on the head.
note for the n00bs: VTEC (variable valve timing electronic control) is when the third lobe on a vtec cam is activated by higher oil pressure. Oil pressure goes from 7 psi to 57 psi when vtec engages...which bumps up the compression ratio.
Because the third lobe is larger than the other 2 lobes, it basically turns the cam into a larger profile cam. Vtec engages usually at 5500 rpms on SOHC, and around the same for a B series.
(hmotorsonline.com prices)
B18B1 (LS) complete change over: $2200.00
B18C1 (GS-R) complete change over: $3199.00
B18C5 (ITR) complete change over: $4600.00
B16B (CTR) complete change over: $3800.00
complete change over = complete swap
With the B18B1 you save 900 bucks....which will hook you up for a bullet prood bottom end (maybe not the whole sha-bang....but a way stronger bottom end than a stock B18C1 bottom end) With that said you can run more boost initially than a B18C1 and smoke it.
B18B1 (LS) complete change over: $2200.00
B18C1 (GS-R) complete change over: $3199.00
B18C5 (ITR) complete change over: $4600.00
B16B (CTR) complete change over: $3800.00
complete change over = complete swap
With the B18B1 you save 900 bucks....which will hook you up for a bullet prood bottom end (maybe not the whole sha-bang....but a way stronger bottom end than a stock B18C1 bottom end) With that said you can run more boost initially than a B18C1 and smoke it.