DEBATE: Police chase video

toplevelej

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EX 2000 said:
i know, honestly i cant really make up my mind about this 100%.....like the pit manuever was a bad choice IMO, but her traveling at those speeds is also unsafe.....i still think they could have done something different tho

agree,, they should have done something different then that
 


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U know what, ill admit, they did it right. If they went for the left side of the car, there for, the car would have gone into the center-divider, and went into on-coming traffic, which could have killed more people. So in a way, they did make a good choise. But how could they tell if they were going to be killed? they cant. Plus, they get the green light from higher up, so it isnt their call, they just do what they are told what to do. U guys need to go to your local highway patrol, and do a ride along, and see what they have to put up with, expicially california, and all the bull s**t they have to keep track of. U guys need to have better respect for them, they have a lot to do out there. And if you thingk they all eat doughnuts, your wrong, only people that have desk jobs eat them. Ive see a lot of crash photos, that one is just a minor one than what could have happen. My dad took a head on crash on the US 395, one of hte deadliest highways in the US, and the impact speed was around 150 mph. The girls that were sitting in the back of the van were cut in half by their seat belts. They have to put up with a lot of stuff u guys would never even thing about, so have a little more respect twards them.


edited for spelling for Monstre :twisted:
 
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.... who cares, they shouldn't have the pit manuver at that kind of speed. Its stupid, their here to protect and serve, not kill..
 


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Definelty wasnt the best coice.....f**king idiots killed 2 people...Ya they were doing the wrong thing...speeding like hell is wrong...but the cops have otehr ways to stopping them like that....
 

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I think the cops did what they needed to do to end the chase when they did . The girl was showing NO rational thought as to being chased by police at speeds up to and over 100mph for over 70 miles doesnt show great judgement. Even the passenger could have taken over the vehicle if he wanted im sure. Was a stupid move on her part, as far as im concerned they did protect and serve. They protected the innocent people she was buzzing past at high speeds by getting her off the road. What should they do let every criminal that drives faster than 100mph go? Even if she had no record she became a criminal when she ran from the cops. I applaud the cops efforts she was stupid , had a suspended license and acting like that is just plain stupid. Also who is to say she would have slowed down she was crazy, she could have ended up wrecking killing her passenger and a few other people with her for that matter. I guess the people that feel that they were totaly wrong are probably the same people that feel street racing is prefectly safe and not wrong?
 

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They could have called off the chase.. which happens.. they just forget it happened.. and bam, prolly no accidents or deaths.

also, I feel that street racing is for f**k tards..
 

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i dont agree with those that said the cop was doing there job. a police officer's job is to protect the innocent. all they had to do was get the license plate, call off the chase, wait for everything to settle down. go to the house of the owner of the vehicle, and find the driver and arrest them. instead he killed the driver, who wasnt innocent, and killed the passenger, who for all we know might have been innocent. IMO it was just as reckless to use the pit manuever at that high of a speed as it was for the girl behind the wheel to run from the cops. and to make matters worse there is a bit of traffic on the road, what if he used to pit manuever and the car slammed into another vehicle and killed everyone involved. the cop would have immediately been kicked off the force and also could have faced a couple of criminal charges. that was a very poor decision and i think cops that think and act as irrational as this should not be cops at all.
 
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more rebuttle: first, the officer waited for a clear road before he performed the move. second, when a pursuit is called off, the fleeing vehicle rarely forgets about the chase and slows down. they tend to see it as an 'opportunity' to get away and may become more dangerous as they try to hide b/c they will get off the highway and now they are on city streets. third, nobody knows who is fleeing until the chase is over. the driver could be a a bank robber or a killer or just stole the car and fled. think of watching pursuit shows, notice how for a minor violation, the officer calmly walks up to the vehicle and begins talking. now when the vehicle was just fleeing, the cops are out immediatly with guns drawn and yelling commands. reasons are: 1. they are pissed (thats a given) 2. the suspect was fleeing, which gives reason that they may have committed a major crime. everyone knows fleeing is jail time, so the suspect must have done something to be willing to take the risk. get where im going? the police cant just let it go b/c the suspect is an immediate potential threat. hypothetically, say she was a car thief/killer. police let her go, she pulls off the nearest exit and ditches her car for someone elses, but not before she kills the driver of the car she just took. now there is a killer on the loose and you have no idea where b/c she was let go for driving too fast... im just trying to get people to see this from the view of the pursuers. when someone runs, they need to be treated like americas most wanted b/c nobody knows who they are until they are stopped.
 

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Bangin' HB said:
more rebuttle: first, the officer waited for a clear road before he performed the move. second, when a pursuit is called off, the fleeing vehicle rarely forgets about the chase and slows down. they tend to see it as an 'opportunity' to get away and may become more dangerous as they try to hide b/c they will get off the highway and now they are on city streets. third, nobody knows who is fleeing until the chase is over. the driver could be a a bank robber or a killer or just stole the car and fled. think of watching pursuit shows, notice how for a minor violation, the officer calmly walks up to the vehicle and begins talking. now when the vehicle was just fleeing, the cops are out immediatly with guns drawn and yelling commands. reasons are: 1. they are pissed (thats a given) 2. the suspect was fleeing, which gives reason that they may have committed a major crime. everyone knows fleeing is jail time, so the suspect must have done something to be willing to take the risk. get where im going? the police cant just let it go b/c the suspect is an immediate potential threat. hypothetically, say she was a car thief/killer. police let her go, she pulls off the nearest exit and ditches her car for someone elses, but not before she kills the driver of the car she just took. now there is a killer on the loose and you have no idea where b/c she was let go for driving too fast... im just trying to get people to see this from the view of the pursuers. when someone runs, they need to be treated like americas most wanted b/c nobody knows who they are until they are stopped.
okay, i see your point. but a passenger cannot just grab the wheel if the driver wants to get away. unless she wants to kill herself at that high of a speed. so wouldnt you think that a police officer would think about the passenger before they take any necessary actions? i mean cops cant take the life of an innocent just because they are in the same car as a criminal. it may not be there fault.
 
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Despite the death of the passenger... say I'm cruising along on the highway with my baby brother and sister, and my mom in my car with me... this b***h comes flying up at me at 100+mph... I don't see her, change lanes.... get hit from behind with the equivolent force of a head on at 50+mph..... me, my baby siblings, and my mom go tumbling down or off the road... all of us are killed, and the driver and passenger of the running vehicle are killed.
Would that have been a better outcome?
I believe the officers did the right thing... they actually probably should have done it sooner.... and if the driver had survived, I'd have been all for putting a bullet in her head.... people that stupid shouldn't be given another chance to end someone elses life.
 

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The police did their job but they did it wrong... first off they should know its an suv and at those speeds it could have easily flipped and hurt more than just the drivers.... the police will get in trouble for that one at 100mph its just poor judgement by the police to do that, obvioulsy they got a big head and wanted to be super cops. the reason why people run is because they are being chased ... if the police back off they could get them when they stop
 

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bullshit, doing his job my ass. He could have just as easily wiped out like the victim did pulling a maneuver like that at those speeds. Neglagence pure and simple. Not defending the victimc actions, dont get me wrong. It could have been handled so much better. Spike strips...road block....pitting someone going over 100 mph???? come on dude. Also, of course im speaking a little blindly here but i dont have sound on my comp. what if the car was hijacked, innocent ppl in the car??? I guess everyone has their own opinion.
 

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:x That cop should be shot. First of all, there is no reason to use the pit manuever at that kind of speeds ever. If I knew the girl, I would have done something about it. There is no way that that pig would have gotten off scott free like that. He killed two people, and he should be killed just the same. He knew that there was a possiblity of that happening so he should live up to the concequences. Secondly, how stupid can you be? I mean come on!, its an suv, known to be unstable at high speeds especially when conering, and then your gonna go do the pit maneuver. That makes me furious. :x :evil:
 

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i'm not even thinking right or wrong from that video. theres a right and wrong
to everything. the one thing that I WAS thinking about, god all mighty
how terrible that instant of life must be. In 3 seconds or less, you spin, maybe
get a glance at your death (a tree) and like that your dead. Yikes.. i can't
imagine. :(

No winner.
 

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IGotASlowCivic said:
i'm not even thinking right or wrong from that video. theres a right and wrong
to everything. the one thing that I WAS thinking about, god all mighty
how terrible that instant of life must be. In 3 seconds or less, you spin, maybe
get a glance at your death (a tree) and like that your dead. Yikes.. i can't
imagine. :(

No winner.
I can remember when my last car was totaled when I lost control and spun out. It's horrifying.
 

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what happens if the trooper didn't do that then and there and the people in the car caused a huge accident killing a few INOCENT people what would they have said then?????????
 

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I finally got to see it after trying a bazillion times.. I dont know, the driver shouldnt of been so stupid to run, but the officer shouldnt of done that at such high speeds.. Im stuck in the middle..
 

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dlplunkett44 said:
:x That cop should be shot. First of all, there is no reason to use the pit manuever at that kind of speeds ever. If I knew the girl, I would have done something about it. There is no way that that pig would have gotten off scott free like that. He killed two people, and he should be killed just the same. He knew that there was a possiblity of that happening so he should live up to the concequences. Secondly, how stupid can you be? I mean come on!, its an suv, known to be unstable at high speeds especially when conering, and then your gonna go do the pit maneuver. That makes me furious. :x :evil:
the cop should be shot for doing his job to protect other motorist on the road? yes the pit at that speed is risky but what do you do when a vehicle wont pull over? use spike strips so when the tires blow they for sure lose control. this was a no win situation. the officer was givin an order and he acted upon it, similar to oour military in iraq. should they be shot for killing innocent people on accident? no i dont think so either.
 

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Those cops were stupid for doing such a thing like that, your not suppose to do a pit Maneuver like that going at a high speed, what they should of done was put a spike strip on the road and disable the vehicle like that, because eventually the tires would be flat and the kids would of been caught and nobody would of gotten hurt.
 


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