DEBATE: Police chase video

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JayVee said:
Those cops were stupid for doing such a thing like that, your not suppose to do a pit Maneuver like that going at a high speed, what they should of done was put a spike strip on the road and disable the vehicle like that, because eventually the tires would be flat and the kids would of been caught and nobody would of gotten hurt.
sorry dude but the spike strips at that speed would have been just as devastating as the pit maneuver. just emagine traveling 100 plus and all the sudden your tires go flat, you will lose control and just maybe you will go towards oncoming traffic. i think that if they did in fact use the spike strips at that speed the tires would have shreaded within a few seconds.
 

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cheezeonmakneez said:
sorry dude but the spike strips at that speed would have been just as devastating as the pit maneuver. just emagine traveling 100 plus and all the sudden your tires go flat, you will lose control and just maybe you will go towards oncoming traffic. i think that if they did in fact use the spike strips at that speed the tires would have shreaded within a few seconds.
Nope not really You've especially have seen them here since your from southern Cali. Police chase have gone in excess of over 80 or more mph and have used the spike strips and it always works just fine....It's shown that it's a lot safer than the pit..
 


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That pig was wrong to pull that s**t at those speeds. An innocent passenger died.
 

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JayVee said:
Nope not really You've especially have seen them here since your from southern Cali. Police chase have gone in excess of over 80 or more mph and have used the spike strips and it always works just fine....It's shown that it's a lot safer than the pit..
have you ever seen a car flying down the frwy when a tire goes out? that s**t flies everywhere and they struggle to grasp what control they can, now imagine two or even all of the tires going out at once. I do aggree with you strips are alot safer than the pit but how would you set up spike strips on a freeway full of travelers? I'm sure that if i was running from the popo's and i noticed a bunch of traffic merging into one lane i'd know something was up and i would do what i could to get away. I think if they used strips that the female driver would have known something was up and she would have done some dumb s**t like try to drive around them by going into oncoming traffic, after all she wasnt about to stop so why would she just give in and drive over them?
 


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there are some spike strips that use special spikes that are more like straws and let the air out slowly and safely. however, not many places have these and use conventional spikes. the problem is these tend to cause a blow-out, and everyone knows what can happen with a blowout on an suv (a la ford explorer?) at those speeds, spike strips are more dangerous b/c they are less predictable. blow out a tire and the suv could have gone anywhere. at least there was control of where to put the vehicle with the pit
 

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Bangin' HB said:
there are some spike strips that use special spikes that are more like straws and let the air out slowly and safely. however, not many places have these and use conventional spikes. the problem is these tend to cause a blow-out, and everyone knows what can happen with a blowout on an suv (a la ford explorer?) at those speeds, spike strips are more dangerous b/c they are less predictable. blow out a tire and the suv could have gone anywhere. at least there was control of where to put the vehicle with the pit
well said.
 

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thats bullshit! :evil: the pit s**t...theres a rule somewhere saying that you cant do it over 75 unless the roads are clear and have enough space on both sides of the road for them to slide safely to a stop...now they could have done a shitload of other things, such as the spike strips as jayvee brought up, or they could have waited a little longer to see if they give up because police chases most of the time the people surrender because they fold over the pressure. Plus, that passenger what if he didnt do anything and was yelling at her to stop and he still died...id be all over that cop like stink on s**t! :cussing: they could have boxe them in like in most cases, or made a road block! alot of choices...but its that damn georga state trooper. :twisted:
 

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There are certian tactics for certian situations. Honetsly did these cops think "ok im gonna spin this person out and theyre NOT gonna slam into a tree"? Prolly not. Im not a cop but you would think you could box the person in, use spike strips or something, I mean yea I guess he was doin his job that was just stupid call... kinda makes me mad
 

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Should have just let her go...Between the two states you would think one law inforcement agency would have a helecopter. If the cops backed off, she may have slowed down. I dunno though.
 

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I think it was a good call, only cuz more than just the two lives could have been taken. I mean what if one of your fam members was a innocent victim of an idiot tryin to run from the po pos! Then you would be pissed to hell that the cops didnt stop them sooner. Good call for the cop, he waited till it was clear to do that manuever. Too bad she ended up in a tree, but even flying down the freeway in excess of 100+ you dont know what can happen at any point. Spikes are a good choice, but you know how outta control a car can get flying down the freeway in speeds that high? Not to mention the SUV that was being chased. s**t coulda been worse i think. but thats jus my opinion. Thanks for reading.
 

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MySiIzFaster said:
You are not supposed to attempt that manuever that fast.. poor judgement... but could have killed someone else too..
do you mean at that high of speed or that quickly... cause if youre saying that quickly they were chasing them forever... they did their job
 

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TripeoXxX said:
That pig was wrong to pull that s**t at those speeds. An innocent passenger died.

f**k them. THEY ran from the cops and THEY lost. The end. Period.

The passenger could have grabbed the ignition key at any time and shut the car off. Could have moved the gear selector to neutral.
 

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IMO.... they could of boxed her in... or could of set road blocks on exits and set spikes.... or could wait til she runs outta gas.... heavty price to pay for a offence that will only serve you a year to five in jail, her bad for not pulling over but a law suit should be in order for the agressive act of using the pit manuver... there are plenty of other options to immoblize a vehicle. But thats just my :twocents:
 

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In such situations, especially when an innocent passenger is in the automobile and neither occupant has a criminal record, the chase should be called off. Pit manuvers at speeds in an excess of 100 MPH are extremely dangerous, not only for the criminal but the police and public alike. Had the police ceased this chase, the accused would've slowed down. This trajedy could have been avoided. Justice exists to reform people, not kill.
 

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So, what you are saying is that police should terminate pursuit when speed reaches 100 mph. 100 mph just instantly becomes the magic get out of jail free card. How about instead we allow cops to open fire on anyone travelling over 100 mph who refuses to stop? They are obviously endangering others and themselves with a deadly weapon.

They were stupid enough to run from the cops.
 

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Beelzebubba said:
So, what you are saying is that police should terminate pursuit when speed reaches 100 mph. 100 mph just instantly becomes the magic get out of jail free card. How about instead we allow cops to open fire on anyone travelling over 100 mph who refuses to stop? They are obviously endangering others and themselves with a deadly weapon.

They were stupid enough to run from the cops.
Actually, if you expressed the slightest hint of intelligence, you'd be aware that I stipulated in my first sentence the circumstances under which the case should've been called off.

Unfortunately, reading must not be your forte.

Furthermore, "they" is plural and I believe only one person was driving the car. Unless you've mastered the art of telepathy and have prior knowledge at hand; assuming that the passenger was holding the drivers foot down, than I digress.

Good day!
 

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scottyfordy said:
Actually, if you expressed the slightest hint of intelligence, you'd be aware that I stipulated in my first sentence the circumstances under which the case should've been called off.

Unfortunately, reading must not be your forte.

Furthermore, "they" is plural and I believe only one person was driving the car. Unless you've mastered the art of telepathy and have prior knowledge at hand; assuming that the passenger was holding the drivers foot down, than I digress.

Good day!
damn them some big words.
 

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Yah.. I'm glas it went down like that.. well not that she died but that they ended it..It was the safest way to end the chase
 

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i didnt feel like doing all the of reading but i had a friend who was a passanger in a car when a cop did that....
They were going about 70 - 80, cop puts on his lights, the guy starts slowing down to pull over, the cop rams into the back of the guy which spins both my friend and the driver around in the car and then they flip over the median... oncoming cars instantly kill the guy driving and my friend is severley injured. In the end the cop said he dropped his CB radio and accidently hit them frmo behind, nothing happens to the cop but the burden of having killed someone... In that case the cop injured my friend, killed the guy, and probably injured some people in the oncoming traffic...
 

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AqueousFila said:
i didnt feel like doing all the of reading but i had a friend who was a passanger in a car when a cop did that....
They were going about 70 - 80, cop puts on his lights, the guy starts slowing down to pull over, the cop rams into the back of the guy which spins both my friend and the driver around in the car and then they flip over the median... oncoming cars instantly kill the guy driving and my friend is severley injured. In the end the cop said he dropped his CB radio and accidently hit them frmo behind, nothing happens to the cop but the burden of having killed someone... In that case the cop injured my friend, killed the guy, and probably injured some people in the oncoming traffic...
Kind of a different situation, sorry about your friend though hope he or she is ok. the cop dropped his radio? hmm hard call to make. if indeed he dropped it then he should have cited for failure to maintain control. if he didnt drop it he should have been shot for ramming someone who is already pulling over.
 


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