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slambed_civic said:
gutting your car does jack s**t.... this is an exapmle of the ricer effect again....
you're an idiot. I hate people like you. Drive slow, shitty cars. It's called weight reduction and every pound counts. So if it's only 50 pounds, then the AC s**t weighs 50, power steering weighs 25, and that's 125. Not to mention spare tire and jack.Add a CF hood (Shaves another 15 pounds), a can of fix a flat, and bolt on a turbo kit. The weight reduction will make up for the added charge piping intercooler etc. And you've got a 14 second car.
 

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illicon2003 said:
you're an idiot. I hate people like you. Drive slow, shitty cars. It's called weight reduction and every pound counts. So if it's only 50 pounds, then the AC s**t weighs 50, power steering weighs 25, and that's 125. Not to mention spare tire and jack.Add a CF hood (Shaves another 15 pounds), a can of fix a flat, and bolt on a turbo kit. The weight reduction will make up for the added charge piping intercooler etc. And you've got a 14 second car.
suck my cock flamer. you dont know me and how dare you can me an idiot? taking all of that stuff out of a 17second car with 100 hp isnt gonna do s**t for you. im running a 14second car... full interior all motor. wanna explain that one? a*****e :roll:

i suppose a 89hatch witha jdm B16 in it is slow and shitty. eat a fat one.
 


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youve got no clue.... the only time weight like that even matter is when youre running like 10s....

... :lol: ... ever notice that back packers, mountain climbers, all ways pack in the lightest way possible and do not carry any more weight the they have to. Less weight makes it easier...

Examples:

- Take your self and run the 50yd dash. See what you time is.
- Now put on a 50lbs back-pack and run the 50yds.
- Now add another 50lbs to the pack and run the 50yds. How much slower was your time and how much harder was it to run?
- Add another 50lbs to the pack and run again. Are you times getting worse?
- Again add another 50lbs, so now you have added 200lbs to your track weight. Are your times getting worse?

Example:

- Imagine if you had to power the car down the 1/4 mile.
- Take a 2500lb crx and push it down the 1/4 mile.
- Now remove 500lbs and push it again down the 1/4 mile.
- Remove another 500lbs and push it again. It it getting easier to push/better times?
- Again remove 500 more lbs and push again...now you know how your engine feels.

The point to my post is a heavier object takes more force/power/energy to move it. Unlike a lighter object take less force/power/energy...it it basic physics people. :roll:
 

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i think what u said is obvious, im not sure but i think slambed_civic is saying gutting a 17 sec car is pointless or useless. i mean who cares if you go from for example a 17.8 quarter mile to 17.2 by weight reduction, its still a 17 sec car but now u don't have the dignity of a nice interior.
 


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24-7 said:
... :lol: ... ever notice that back packers, mountain climbers, all ways pack in the lightest way possible and do not carry any more weight the they have to. Less weight makes it easier...

Examples:

- Take your self and run the 50yd dash. See what you time is.
- Now put on a 50lbs back-pack and run the 50yds.
- Now add another 50lbs to the pack and run the 50yds. How much slower was your time and how much harder was it to run?
- Add another 50lbs to the pack and run again. Are you times getting worse?
- Again add another 50lbs, so now you have added 200lbs to your track weight. Are your times getting worse?

Example:

- Imagine if you had to power the car down the 1/4 mile.
- Take a 2500lb crx and push it down the 1/4 mile.
- Now remove 500lbs and push it again down the 1/4 mile.
- Remove another 500lbs and push it again. It it getting easier to push/better times?
- Again remove 500 more lbs and push again...now you know how your engine feels.

The point to my post is a heavier object takes more force/power/energy to move it. Unlike a lighter object take less force/power/energy...it it basic physics people. :roll:
i understand what you are saying but with the CRX, where the f**k are you getting 1500 lbs removed? you cant, they cars only weigh a lil more than that stock.
 

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say your car runs 17.9s, remove 100 lbs, front and rear seats and carpet. you will feel little to NOTHING at all, nor will you see any substancial gains whatsoever. when you car is hitting lower numbers, itll make a difference then. when you dont have to power to pull 2300 lbs or 2200 lbs its still gonna be about the same because of the small amount of power you have. bottom line, weight reduction makes a difference when you have power for it. when you have little power weight reduction doenst offer you much at all.
 

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weight reduction with lots of power or little power it does make a difference. when doing weight reduction, it is mean for the tracks and to get a better 1/4. when track racing, every little thing counts. doing weight reduction just to race on the streets is just stupid.
 

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weight reduction with lots of power or little power it does make a difference. when doing weight reduction, it is mean for the tracks and to get a better 1/4. when track racing, every little thing counts. doing weight reduction just to race on the streets is just stupid.
but its fun =) The guy before me cut the springs (DIE MOFO) so I would be rubbing all the time. I took out my interior (all but the dash and my seat) and I wasn't rubbing anymore and I could handle better.

Granted, I wouldn't do it again. Reason being... the sound deadening material is there for a reason! And when you have a straight pipe/no exhaust.. it gets fricken loud
 

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slambed_civic said:
say your car runs 17.9s, remove 100 lbs, front and rear seats and carpet. you will feel little to NOTHING at all, nor will you see any substancial gains whatsoever. when you car is hitting lower numbers, itll make a difference then. when you dont have to power to pull 2300 lbs or 2200 lbs its still gonna be about the same because of the small amount of power you have. bottom line, weight reduction makes a difference when you have power for it. when you have little power weight reduction doenst offer you much at all.

I haven't been on CC in a while and there is a reason for that but Ill come back to that one. You are a joke, and you don't seem to know to much about cars. First of all 1/4 mile is not the only kind of racing, if anything it is the most pointless, you seem to think this is the only kind of racing. Second of all you started this thread in the ignorant direction the first time you posted. Weight reduction is always a major factor in racing, hence the term "power to weight". It doesn't matter how much power you have (which this guys never stated) the less weight you have to move the faster you are going to go. I would however agree that it is pointless, if you are not going to go all the way and if you do not plan on racing. By saying go all the way I mean rear seats, spare jack, PS, AC, sound deadening mat, and anything else there is no use for on a race car. You said something about the mods doing a good job, obviously they aren't because they let uneducated people like you respond to people Q's with your rediculous attitudes. You did not ansewer this guys question and there for your post was pointless. People like you are the reason this forum sucks and the reason I do not come on here very often. You need to get over your self and move on. :ban:

Don't even bother responding as I probly won't be back to check it. You have alredy proved to me that your opinion is worthless :ownded:

and one final thing befor I leave, did you get the VIS hood for weight reduction or just to be ricey?
 

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the only thing worth takin out is prolly rear seat, everythin else is light enuff as it is
 

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x007den said:
i think what u said is obvious, im not sure but i think slambed_civic is saying gutting a 17 sec car is pointless or useless. i mean who cares if you go from for example a 17.8 quarter mile to 17.2 by weight reduction, its still a 17 sec car but now u don't have the dignity of a nice interior.
:werd: shaving a second off your 1/4 time when you're runnin 14's is impressive, but shaving a second off of a 17 second car is still shamefull... you'd be left with a car that looks like ass and is STILL slow
 

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the only thing worth takin out is prolly rear seat, everythin else is light enuff as it is
i dunno about you but my rear seat weighs all of 10 lbs, my spare tire OR my jack weighs more.
 

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I haven't been on CC in a while and there is a reason for that but Ill come back to that one. You are a joke, and you don't seem to know to much about cars. First of all 1/4 mile is not the only kind of racing, if anything it is the most pointless, you seem to think this is the only kind of racing. Second of all you started this thread in the ignorant direction the first time you posted. Weight reduction is always a major factor in racing, hence the term "power to weight". It doesn't matter how much power you have (which this guys never stated) the less weight you have to move the faster you are going to go. I would however agree that it is pointless, if you are not going to go all the way and if you do not plan on racing. By saying go all the way I mean rear seats, spare jack, PS, AC, sound deadening mat, and anything else there is no use for on a race car. You said something about the mods doing a good job, obviously they aren't because they let uneducated people like you respond to people Q's with your rediculous attitudes. You did not ansewer this guys question and there for your post was pointless. People like you are the reason this forum sucks and the reason I do not come on here very often. You need to get over your self and move on. :ban:

Don't even bother responding as I probly won't be back to check it. You have alredy proved to me that your opinion is worthless :ownded:

and one final thing befor I leave, did you get the VIS hood for weight reduction or just to be ricey?
yes youre right, im sorry, i bow down. time on a forum has nothing to do with knowledge. i understand where you are coming from, and i also know where i am coming from. i will not be banned or warned for my views, they are logical, i may have gone about them in a manner uncivil to the other members, but hey, live with it. gutting an everyday car is completely pointless. yes, race applications i can see where is is plausible. in a 17 second stock 100 hp car, that has to be driven everyday it makes no sense. and im sure youll agree with me. as for not knowing much about cars....youre very wrong, physics of certian things, i may be a lil shady. im done with this thread and ill leave it be.

btw, the hood... yes ricey, flame me, it looks good and i like it, just as many other members here would/do, you cant deny the fact that it looks decent, noone really buys a CF hood for weight reduction, and if they say that they do, they are most likely lying and if you dont like it, like i said, before, your views are yours and mine are mine. settled?
 

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think of weight reduction this way.... a 300hp 2300lb civic...vs a 500hp 3300lb camaro....what would win...probably the civic, and if not itll come damn close.
 


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