Im new to CC... here is my car!

[Sound Streamin']

Sure you can go with a t3/t4 on a lil 1.6... if you want a useless powerband as far as streetablity is concerned. These engines make NO power down low, which is where you want it.. and need it. Go ahead, put a t3/t4 on your d series, and enjoy your savage turbo lag. 1.8 is the smallest anyone (myself included) should put a t3/t4 on.

And your telling them to buy a new D series block and turbo that? wtf is that? Spend the money on a b series if you are going to get a new block. They are the most populer block for a reason.

 

[baby99si]

What year are those GSR rims on your winter tires?

 

[zc vtec]

Originally posted by SillyGirlSi
My bf is running a t3/t4 on his d16... he is expecting 300hsp at the wheels on it.. and no problems. If the motor and internals are built correctly, then there are no problems, its when people think they can run any type of boost pushing more than 10lbs w stock internals and block that they blow it up or run into problems. I plan on doing everything correctly. I have done alot of research and there are thousands of si's with t3/t4 turbos.

300 hp at the wheels is possible on a D block if he's planning on pushing 30 psi! On a boosted Honda, every psi is equal to roughly 5-7 hp. D series blocks come stock with roughly 105-110 hp at the wheels. Add mods like exhaust system, cam, lightened flywheel, crank pulley, CAI and you can get a D series up to around 126-130 hp at the wheels. We'll say the most he runs is 20 psi, since even on a forged internaled Civic with 30 psi he'll be blowing s**t up left and right. So, 20 psi X 7 hp = 140 + 120 original hp(have to compensate for lost power due to low compression pistons) = 260. That's damn good for a D series motor, however claiming 300 at the wheels is pretty optimistic.

 

[Martin Racing Design]

Originally posted by zc vtec
Yeah ok you genius. You want your max boost to hit at 3500 on a 1.6 then be my guest. I'll take my full boost at 2300 with my T3 and still make the same power from then on. You talk to anyone who actually KNOWS something about boosting a Honda, and they'll say that the minimum requirements for a T3/T4 is a B18 block or bigger.

And I guess those thousands of turbo tuners with VAFCs who have no problems know s**t all huh? I don't think I recall saying that the VAFC was better s**t-for-brains, I said it's more convenient since you can tune it fast and whenever you want. Read the whole post before you shoot your mouth. Idiot.

The difference between 2.3k and 3.5k is pretty much nothing. Instead of it hitting at 5mph it will be hitting at 15. Once the turbo spools in first, it will be spooling from there on. So my wheels are going to hook up and my motor will last longer because I wont always be boosting. And at high RPMs I will have way more power than your T3.

And mr. dickweed-know-it-all, I quoted your whole post. So f**k off eh? You said if you get Hondata tow the car, and if you go VAFC you can mod the ratios on the spot.

Hondata + VAFC.. ok Ill buy that. But you didn't say that.

And Sound Streamin' - why don't you go street race into a wall.

 

[RiceBoy]

Looks pretty clean. I think the rest of the Tsunami kit would do it nicely.

 

[zc vtec]

Originally posted by CarbonCreations
The difference between 2.3k and 3.5k is pretty much nothing. Instead of it hitting at 5mph it will be hitting at 15. Once the turbo spools in first, it will be spooling from there on. So my wheels are going to hook up and my motor will last longer because I wont always be boosting. And at high RPMs I will have way more power than your T3.

And mr. dickweed-know-it-all, I quoted your whole post. So f**k off eh? You said if you get Hondata tow the car, and if you go VAFC you can mod the ratios on the spot.

Hondata + VAFC.. ok Ill buy that. But you didn't say that.

And Sound Streamin' - why don't you go street race into a wall.

Are you for real? Holy s**t. Did some one just kick the s**t out of you and make you forget that 1.6 Liter Honda engines make NO power down low? Why the hell would you want all your boost up high when you already will make your hp there when you can have the boost hit way down low and actually make some low end TORQUE with a 4 cylinder. Holy god some people just don't get it! Hmm, seems to me that I'd rather have my power hit sooner than to have to wait for the damn thing to struggle through it's weak ass power band until the engine is overwhelmed with boost. On a street driven 1.6 Honda, having to wait an extra 1200 rpm for the boost is HUGE.

Why the f**k would you run Hondata AND a VAFC? They do the same thing. The whole point with Hondata is that you do some mods, take it to the tuner shop, get your mapping set, and LEAVE IT. If you do more mods, you go back and get it re-mapped. No one in thier right mind does both, that's a stupid waste of money. It's one or the other. They're both designed to control your fuel mapping. Sell your car. You're a disgrace.

 

[Sound Streamin']

Wow carbon... so by your thinking, there is no reason to make a car rev to 10,000 RPM if it already revs to 9,000 right? Because the 1000 rpm difference is "virtually nothing". So the guys at spoon who do tonnes of research making there engines rev like nuts are wasting there time? Must be eh. 1000 rpm is a major difference, especially at the bottem end of a torque-less engine.

I'll leave the street racing to wannabe tuners like yourself. Stick to what you think you know, carbon fiber.

 

[LazyDC5]

wow...u got lots of work done on that.........nice car.........

 

[SeanMc300]

sound streamin, zc vtec, i like you guys!! haha. im right there with you in both of your whole arguements. thats why im getting t25..why you ask, cuz of already said reasons. (fast spool and a good nice powerband). it seems to me that you and sillygirly are only concerned with hp numbers and s**t like that, oh and carbon fiber (woo hoo??). vafc is not a shitty way of tuning a turbo car, fmu is!!!!!

t3/t4s belong on something like a 1.8+ motor.... unless its strictly a drag car and built.... but on a street driven honda, whats the point of having 250hp and only being able to use 150 of it daily??? gee, i dont see one. plus with a stupid big t3/t4 your not gonna see your full boost till after 4000 rpms, so everything before 4000 rpm youre only gonna be using the stock power (or less), and getting up to 4000 on a d16 does take time.... id rather be boost from 2500 on, then 4000 on. oh yeah and you saying that your motor will last longer...BULLSHIT, because when cruising on the street, you arent necessarily be boosting alllll the time, its called pedal control and NOT flooring it every time you use the gas....... wow, go read a book.

edit: oh and to say something in relation to the original post, (all this isnt positive, cuz you did leave it open to all critizism, including non constructive, so take it) be original and not do the whole blacked out s**t..WAY played. now, to me this seems like a classic case of rice.... carbon fiber dash, cheap wheels, something obx is going on the car, just a front bumper, dropzone coilovers, two sets of tachs, and yet more carbon fiber. nothing personal, but this car doesnt do much for me.....yet, thats just me.

 

[blaklyte]

Very nice work. Love it a lot. And welcome to CC hope you will enjoy yourself here.

 

[SillyGirlSi]

Haha so far, it seems alot like CSI with the arguing. I guess i will get that with any male based forum. At leats you didnt ask to see my boobs. As far as the whole turbo thing. My bf is doing it on a d series so he doesnt blow an expensive engine if anything happens. He also doesnt want to do wat "every ricer" does with a b18. The d series is much more of a challenge to pound out 300hsp and he doesnt want to have all that constantly, he has his engine built enough so far that he can rev up to 12k and be fine. Yes, a b18 would be better. One of my good friends is ppushing out 600 hsp in a hatch with a b18c1, but he hates that. He cant drive it at all bc all he does is spin the wheels with the clutch needed for that power. He also put 15g into his engine, where ryan is only dishing out 4500. That is all im saying about this anymore. This arguing is pretty immature, i mean turbo's are like underwear. Everyone has their own preference.

 

[ghostsi]

Originally posted by SillyGirlSi
Haha so far, it seems alot like CSI with the arguing. I guess i will get that with any male based forum. At leats you didnt ask to see my boobs. As far as the whole turbo thing. My bf is doing it on a d series so he doesnt blow an expensive engine if anything happens. He also doesnt want to do wat "every ricer" does with a b18. The d series is much more of a challenge to pound out 300hsp and he doesnt want to have all that constantly, he has his engine built enough so far that he can rev up to 12k and be fine. Yes, a b18 would be better. One of my good friends is ppushing out 600 hsp in a hatch with a b18c1, but he hates that. He cant drive it at all bc all he does is spin the wheels with the clutch needed for that power. He also put 15g into his engine, where ryan is only dishing out 4500. That is all im saying about this anymore. This arguing is pretty immature, i mean turbo's are like underwear. Everyone has their own preference.

Yeah i thought i saw you on CSI, dont let the haters bring you down, the car came along way from what it was. And if all you guys are wondering, she is how, she has pics of her with her car. Nothing like a sweet chick with a sweet car too. Only suggestion is learn from your BF and blow these guys away with your info. If you can change your own oil thats a start and when you can pretty much build your car yourself you'll own everyones respect.

 

[SillyGirlSi]

Yes, i did built this car myself.. everything but doing the dents and spraying the paint. I did all the prep work. Threee long weeks of wet sanding to get it .. grrrr (lol)

 

[ghostsi]

Originally posted by SillyGirlSi
Yes, i did built this car myself.. everything but doing the dents and spraying the paint. I did all the prep work. Threee long weeks of wet sanding to get it .. grrrr (lol)

Nice Job then, all i am saying.

 

[Beelzebubba]

WOW! Hella good job!

 

[MILCIV00]

nice work dude, it came along way

 

[DelSho]

very clean ride!!

 

[zc vtec]

Originally posted by SillyGirlSi
Haha so far, it seems alot like CSI with the arguing. I guess i will get that with any male based forum. At leats you didnt ask to see my boobs. As far as the whole turbo thing. My bf is doing it on a d series so he doesnt blow an expensive engine if anything happens. He also doesnt want to do wat "every ricer" does with a b18. The d series is much more of a challenge to pound out 300hsp and he doesnt want to have all that constantly, he has his engine built enough so far that he can rev up to 12k and be fine. Yes, a b18 would be better. One of my good friends is ppushing out 600 hsp in a hatch with a b18c1, but he hates that. He cant drive it at all bc all he does is spin the wheels with the clutch needed for that power. He also put 15g into his engine, where ryan is only dishing out 4500. That is all im saying about this anymore. This arguing is pretty immature, i mean turbo's are like underwear. Everyone has their own preference.

12000 rpms on a D BLOCK? Ok, I'm not buying that either. Everyone knows that SOHC engines don't rev as easily as a B series motor, and it even took Spoon hundreds of hours to figure out a way to make a B16B(the ultimate high revving Honda engine, besides the S2K) rev to 10000 safely. Engines vibrate too much at that kind of revolutions, and the Spoon Block Blade allows the engine to act like normal all the way up to 10000. They think they can get it to 11000 with the blade installed, but even the Gods of Honda engines didn't make a claim of 12 grand on a B16B.
Spoon doesn't make parts for D series engines, so there's no product on the market like the Block Blade that can do the same job for a D16. Again, this could be possible, but I'm highly doubtful. If he actually tries to race a D block WITH turbo, and it revving to 12000, it'll make for a spectacular explosion at 300 feet. He's doing a D series block because if it explodes he doesn't want it to be an expensive wreck? Well, if he's got all the stuff you say he does, he's already got thousands invested. Hmm, must be nice to have too much money.

 

[SillyGirlSi]

LOL. he wont race it more than once or twice at the track and that is only drag. It is just a project car. He knows wayy more than i do about this stuff and im just letting you know the little details he tells me. He isnt positive about the 12000 rpms yet, he just got all his parts that say they can handle that. He drives his si like a pussy now and maybeee hits vtec once every two weeks, and he already said he doesnt plan on revving it up much. Even without the turbo he took the car out to two shows and drove it about 20 times total in the three years he has had it. It's not being built as an everyday driver or even as a car that could be driven often. He just wants this as a project and he has beeen working construction on top of going to highschool still (he's young hehe).. everyday just to get the money for it. He also works every sat and sun rebuilding salvaged cars and selling them. His parents havent helped him out at all. He earned all this himself. He is a little on the insane side w the turbo bc im begining to think he is obsessed. He gave up buying lunch at school bc its $1.30 everyday that goes towards his turbo. It should be finished around June and i will gladly post the dyno sheets when it gets tuned. And as for the money . he is on a STRICT budget and is only $4500 total including dyno time and tuning, but that is if he doesnt run into problems at all. Problems always seem to occur so im pretty sure that a$4500 will be going up a little. Im not trying to say you are wrong at all. I am sure you know alot more than i do. I am just sayin that he choose the T3/T4 and it seems like its going to push out a pretty good increase in hsp.

 

[SeanMc300]

get him on here...... i want to know how much psi, compression, cc's of fuel, his cam. By the way, that sounds just stupid to "work so hard" to only drive that car once or twice..... sorry but when i invest money into anything, id like to use it more than twice...seems like a waste of money. i dont belive any of this, id like to see this 600hp b18c1, sheets, pics, specs....cuz that sounds like bs too.