I could see 600 break hp on like 28lbs but definitly not wheel hp.
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For everyone that doesn't have faith in the turbo d16's heres a link to a page with a 302whp d16 at 16.5 psi. Im not trying to be a d**k or anything, just proving my point so you guys know that she really knows what she is talking about. She does not lie and she is still learning about boost and as for the 12,000rpms I bought some mods that will handle it but i am still researching to see how the rest of the engine handles it.
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You have a Hawt Civic and welcome to CC 
Don't worry about doing more research, because you can't rev it that high. And here's why. A good buddy of mine is a Honda Genius, and has his Masters in Physics so he knows the calculations for EVERYTHING regarding engines. I asked him about this guys possible TURBO D16 that can rev to 12000 and here's what he said. And don't argue with it, because it's correct.
"No car engine will rev to 12k easy. I don't know a lot about D series motors, but they ussually don't rev above 7000k. I don't believe their are any spring packages available that can reliably rev above 10k for ANY Honda Motors.
With NA reving helps if you can make power at higher revs. As far as I know no cams make power past 9000 RPM. Boost ussually extends RPM power making of cams a few 100 rpms becuase of "better breathing", but the cams are also less agressive to prevent blow by. IE: b16a cams make more power than ITR or SKUNK2 cams with turbo. I doubt the engine makes power after 7k even with a turbo. Cams stop making power when they can't breath well enough to feed the motor. Turbo is no different, but are slightly less affected by this, ie: breath further than same NA.
Rod-stroke ratio is also another sore point for 12k.
D16 have an RS ratio of ~1.58 which isn't great for reving. I wouldn't rev the ratio above 9000 with a fully built motor. RS affects piston speeds, the lower it is the faster the acceleration of the piston after TDC (top dead center). B16A has a ratio of 1.74, much better for reving. Indy cars are in the 2.XXx.
So the point of all this is:
1. reliable springs don't exist for 12k
2. the engine won't make power anywhere near 12k
3. your rods would fail at 12k as the acceleration off of TDC would be incredible."
Your using illogical use of logic. I said that the difference from 2300 to 3500 is small. Im advocating more power in high rpms, so don't perverse what Im saying.
And I am talking about building a daily driven drag car. You guys seem to just want daily driven. I already understand the "water under the bridge" concept, and use-able power. I also think a bit of it is wanting the bragging rights of pulling 300+ hp on a 1.6 litre SOHC.
For the cost of a b series motor, you could almost build up a D-series block. I plan on using 1G-GTE pistons with b16a connecting rods, which can run 1-1.2 bar on a stock d-series (although you do have to shave out some of the block's bottom).
nice like what uve don with it.
My car will be a daily driven drag car. b18c with a t3/t4. I'm using a t3/t4 because with a 1.8 it will spool up fast enough (barely) to give me a half ways useable torque curve. Where as your 1.6 with a t3/t4 will have a very un-streetable torque curve. So to say your will be street/drag is lying. Your car is good for the strip only.
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VERY NICE! You put alot of work into it. Going from nothing to something takes alot of time and money. Good Job.
all this arguing..lol....i kinda see everyone's point of veiw, but to be honest.....i'd rather go with carbon creations way of turbo'ing. Cause i mean, its hella tight to have useable torque all the way through the powerband, but i dont wanna be able to reach full boost when im going through tha taco bell drive through. carbon's way is more of, "having the power when you want it".........and on the other hand zc vtec's way is like, "power all day everyday" so i declare SillyGirlSi the winner of this arguement, because it is all just your personal prefference when it comes to turbo.
Nice work on the car. It looks real tight. The rims are awesome. And welcome to CC.
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all this arguing..lol....i kinda see everyone's point of veiw, but to be honest.....i'd rather go with carbon creations way of turbo'ing. Cause i mean, its hella tight to have useable torque all the way through the powerband, but i dont wanna be able to reach full boost when im going through tha taco bell drive through. carbon's way is more of, "having the power when you want it".........and on the other hand zc vtec's way is like, "power all day everyday" so i declare SillyGirlSi the winner of this arguement, because it is all just your personal prefference when it comes to turbo.
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all this arguing..lol....i kinda see everyone's point of veiw, but to be honest.....i'd rather go with carbon creations way of turbo'ing. Cause i mean, its hella tight to have useable torque all the way through the powerband, but i dont wanna be able to reach full boost when im going through tha taco bell drive through. carbon's way is more of, "having the power when you want it".........and on the other hand zc vtec's way is like, "power all day everyday" so i declare SillyGirlSi the winner of this arguement, because it is all just your personal prefference when it comes to turbo.
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i will have a boosted B16 DOHC soon, and with the setup I am getting I will be getting roughly 245 hp at the wheels, I don't really feel the need for anymore, unless I want to compete at the track, but mine is daily driven. It really doesnt matter what engine a turbo goes on, the turbo does all the work. Anyone who disagrees with that statement I wouldn't mind having a discussion with.
When/if i ever boost mine, thats the way i plan to do it. She;s my every day driver, and my only car lol.... i personally dont want anything extreme..
Thank You guys for all the comments!