whats the hp on the jdm d15?? i was thinking of maybe the same swap, either that or a usdm d16z6 mini me head swap which is better
jdm d15b vtec question
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The d15b vtec is 130 ps which equals 128 hp.
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128 at the flywheel though, and wheel dyno'd at about 100hp at the wheels, some claim for ht esame amount money you spend on this swap you can also find a dohc vtec, but i want the dohc zc motor personnaly
All the dynos I've seen have been 107 to 111 at the wheels. With a reprogrammed ecu about 117. I spent 1500 on my swap converting it to odb1 and getting an si tranny, last time I checked you couldn't get a complete b16 swap for under 1200, and then you still have to buy the mounts and get it installed.
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http://www.ardperformance.com/cgi-bin/index.pl?action=index , jdm B16A swap for 1495.00, not including shipping.slyw/fbpsi said:
http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm ,does say what it includes.
http://www.streetimports.com/homepage.htm , includes tranny, engine, ecu 1399.00
https://passwordjdm.com/index.php?page=shop/browse&category_id=engineswaps&ps_session=74b4090eae697cc65e2e08c303838fc1 , 1499.00, includes completes swap except motor mounts.
if your car is a 88-91 you really did need to swtich to obd1, your car was produced as a obd0 and could've stayed that way.
and add 300-500 for mounts and 400 for install and you are pushing 2100-2300 for the install, not even including the 200 they charge if you are dpfi. That extra 700-900, I could put into my d15b vtec, would still spank you on the street or track. I switched to odb1 because my motor is odb1, I want to run like factory, no modded dizzy, rpm switch, or whatever you want to use to activate vtec. So, if I was to stay odb0, then all I would of spent for my swap would of been 1000, that extra 1500 I would of saved from not going b16, would allowed me to get a greddy kit, and be pushing 180-225 at the wheels, still seriously spanking you on the road or track.
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who the hell cares is you spank me on the road or track, im not a wannabe racer and nor do i try to be.did you read the swap list at ardperformnce, the motor mounts were included in the 1295.00, labor charges at any shop i have been to is about 1000.00, not 2100.00-2300.00, that's just a rip off. if your car was already obd1, then why did you have to convert it to obd1, when the jdm d15b is already setup to run obd1 and obdII(with adapters), jus bolting on a greddy turbo kit will not give you that much power, i had one on teh dohc zc and was only putting out 168hp, and that was after being dropped in with a fresh zc from japan and a new greddy kit, 3" exhuast, rc 320 injectors, walbro 255lph fuel pump, vortech fmu, split second vc2, apex'i safc, msd full ignition, aem fuel rail, mugen throttle body, mugen lsd,clutch master clutch and flywheel, and i was running 12.94 at the track, since then i cranked the boost and bent a rod, motor in basement for rebuild.and if you payed more than 795.00 plus about 250.00 shipping then you got ripped on teh motor.slyw/fbpsi said:
What in the world are you talking about, did you even read my post? I said the labor charge was 400 not 1000, the 2100-2300 was the TOTAL cost of the swap. This is an 88-91 forum, so of course I have a odb0 car, however the d15b vtec is an odb1 motor, so, as I said I did not want to run modified distributors, or rpm activated switch to turn on vtec, hence the want to convert to odb1. You were the one talking about some have said that a dohc vtec can be had for the same price, How are those websites proving that, when the motor swaps are 1495, and you still have to pay for shipping and have someone put it in. When I paid 1500, complete, drive home, and converted to odb1. And by the way, those mounts they are speaking about are the factory mounts, not hasport or whoever, so you would still have to get your mounts cut, and these mounts welded in if you were to use them, which shops charge an extra 400 for that. When they say complete swap they men they are proving what you need to do the swap not installing it as well. My costs were with installation.jspeczcturbo said:
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your just funny, the motor mounts that come with the ardperfomance.com swap kit for 1295.00 plus additional 250.00 for shipping are factory mounts for the motor, which is good, why becuase it was designed for the 88-91 civics which means you don't need hasport motor mounts, and sorry if i messed up your labor charge bit.
I used the distributor that came with the d15b. I had to rewire my car for mpfi since I had a dx. For all of the other wires, everything mostly bolted into my stock dx harness, the colors on some of them didn't match, but just follow the sensor wire to the sensor that it was going to on your old motor and match it up with the sensor on the d15b vtec. I had to wire in the vtec solenoid, vtec sensor, and other stuff. But, the odb0->odb1 conversion harness I had, was labeled with those wires, so I just had to connect them together. My car didn't have the diagnostic plug to check the check engine light, like the si, and the conversion harness was under the assumption that my car is an si, so I had to wire that in. The o2 sensor on the d15b vtec is a 1-wire just like the d15b2, so you get to keep your o2 sensor, there was only one plug I didn't use by my intake. so just left it there.pisetup said:
It is designed for ef9 civics not ed8 or ed9, the jdm and edm 88-91 civics have like 3 more inches in the front of the motor, and also have more space available for the alternator, if you use those mounts in your 88-91 usdm civic, the you will run into clearance issues more than any mount kit, you will be hitting the radiator fan, as well, as instead of just needing to bang in the frame to clear for the alternator you would actually have to cut alot of the frame away to make room because the mounts move the engine to the driver side alot more. Even hmotorsonline.com comes with the factory mounts, but they still warn you that you will need aftermarket mounts to correctly install the motors into a 88-91 civic.jspeczcturbo said:
so you use a 92-95 vx timing belt for the d15b vtec...how bout the water pump? vx also or one for the d16z6? I planning on doin this swap on my 92 cx hatch, so far i know that you use d16z6 head parts and d15b block parts but do you guys know any problems I could be running into like vtec wiring etc if i were to this swap...? any help would be greatly appreciated, very good discussion, keep up the good work peepz, Thanks
Majestic Honda has the same part number for the water pump for the civic vx and si. I didn't have any vtec problems.aznbluerag777 said:
Which transmission gave you trouble, and why? I have a CRX Si transmission mated to my JDM d15b, I am just curious as to what troubles you had with your transmission.outofstep said:ok we took out my old motor today
we ended up staying obd0 im using a pm6 ecu and a si dizzy
ran into some problems with the tranny today so i have to get a new tranny, swap should be done tomorrow
ok swap is done however im not impressed yet, i have d15bvtec with 88si ecu 90si tranny vafc2, intake and headers, stock exhaust with a glaspak lol and well i got spanked my my friends si swap bout the same setup cept he has a safc and 2.5 exhaust straight back. do u think exhaust would have made that much of a diffrence? i mean my motor alone is rated what like around 20more hp but he very clearly pulled on me, vtec is set to kick in like 4300-4500 roughly and im revlimiting at 6.5-6.8k im about to upgrde the exhaust and muffler, and next weekend put on a t25 kit and see how it is then... but right now the only diffrence is i have vtec..... from a d15b2....... maybe a lil fastere but my friends si swap pulls much harder. its 1.6l any ideas? oh and we are also gonna chipp the ecu soon.