New Here. 92 Hatch VX All Motor SOHC Vtec Methanol
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i think any one who knows anything about honda's and is truely into them know's that D's have potential. s**t bisi's car was fast as f**k with the D. bottom line B's create more power.
and you being a racer should know that power is only one factor in racing. driver's, car's weight traction. all of that has to do with it.
i mean you could have beat alot of ls teg or GSR. but i don't see how you could have beatin a civic with a b series swap unless the drive sucked. i mean a stock gsr motor will beat a SOHC with all the bolt on's you can think of.
i now the D can make power, a guy over on HT just made some were around 300hp on a stock block, im not saying they don't have potential, but for everything you do to a D if you do the same to a B it will be fast bottom line.
and you being a racer should know that power is only one factor in racing. driver's, car's weight traction. all of that has to do with it.
i mean you could have beat alot of ls teg or GSR. but i don't see how you could have beatin a civic with a b series swap unless the drive sucked. i mean a stock gsr motor will beat a SOHC with all the bolt on's you can think of.
i now the D can make power, a guy over on HT just made some were around 300hp on a stock block, im not saying they don't have potential, but for everything you do to a D if you do the same to a B it will be fast bottom line.
I beat them time and time again on the street and at the track. Civic's with Type R engines, GSR's and SIR engines. I have had my civic for over eight years and have raced for 6 years. My one friend was so determined to beat me with his Type R engine in his civic that when it was finished and he had spent 7-8 grand doing it. I still beat him. He sold his civic a few weeks later. I have freaked out a lot of people over the years with the D series. Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with the B series engine. But everyone has done that. Why follow the crowd.
curious what did you run with your various setup's. cause a friend of mine just ran 13.7 with an EK with an bone stock ITR motor. with out boost im kinda questioning what you had done, if you ran NOS then well of course ya.
At the time when it was on the street I ran 14.1's @ 95mph. I had a 4-1 header, chipped computer, Stage 1 cam, some mild port work, Bored throttle body and intake to match. Upgraded fuel pump. No Nos, No Turbo. And I had only spent just over 2g's. For some reason the setup that I had just all worked really nice together. On the dyno it had 132 whp and 112 tq. Around here I am known for using a single cam engine, so for me to switch to a B was out of the question. I would have loved to switch to a B. The B is a great engine and would probably been easier to do. After talking to my engine builder and several other's they insisted that I stay with the D cause they would find a way to make close to the same power as the B. And we will soon find out.
SOHCoholic said:
make the same power to a stock B??? because agian as i stated B series will always make more the a D.
and to the f**k stick, that said all go buy a 5l mustang shut the f**k up.
im not here to say Ds can't make power I KNOW THEY CAN and the parts to replace them are cheaper then B series. but from what i get from this guy is that D and B are the same and the Ds can make just as much power as a B. which if you take it mod for mod is wrong.
great power can be made out of a D, and i hope the thread starter know that im not trying to knock it, but i also think its bullshit for people to say that a D can make just as much power as a B, which is false if you do the same mods on both motor's the b will win out. thats all that im trying to get out. and if some one came and said D's are s**t id get on there case just as bad.
but we all should relize that the fastest honda's will be powered by a K seires and it will be the motor to brake a honda into the 8 seconds, yes i said it.
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first of all: watch your attitude. no one here is a f**k stick. COOL OFF. the next rude, immature, and irrespectful outburst will be considered for an official warning.slammed_93_hatc said:
and... based on what i inferred from your discussion (that b series will make more power than d series because of either larger displacement or the additional cam) mod for mod, a v8 should make more than an i4.
how about this:
my citroën xsara vtr has a 1.6L DOHC engine with 11.0:1 compression ratio. it only makes 106hp@5750rpm.
my civic's d16y8 is, as you might already know, a 1.6L SOHC with a 9.6:1 compression ratio. it makes 127hp@6800rpm.
oh, and hondas were doing 7s back in 2001 and are now in the 6s... how does 6.711@207.46mph sound to you?
what your saying proves nothing, there are V6's that make less power then a I4 and you obviously missed the point of my post. and i was talking about proFWD class.
we all know V8's make more then I4's and so one. this guy was saying that sohc are fast then dohc and well from what he said 14.1 then his friend must not be able to drive, because a stock ITR in an EK coupe can run 13.7's all day long, and he was saying that his freind had to dump hella money into a DOHC vtec to beat him and still couldn't do it.
why are all you trying to dyn whats true.
now again im not saying the D series motor's don't have potential and can't be made fast they can i know this. but mechaniclly they are limited by there singal over head cam design bottom line.
and D series are cheap thats whats great about it you can have some speed at a lower cost.
and sorry about the f**k stick comment i didn't know people would get soooooo up set about it
we all know V8's make more then I4's and so one. this guy was saying that sohc are fast then dohc and well from what he said 14.1 then his friend must not be able to drive, because a stock ITR in an EK coupe can run 13.7's all day long, and he was saying that his freind had to dump hella money into a DOHC vtec to beat him and still couldn't do it.
why are all you trying to dyn whats true.
now again im not saying the D series motor's don't have potential and can't be made fast they can i know this. but mechaniclly they are limited by there singal over head cam design bottom line.
and D series are cheap thats whats great about it you can have some speed at a lower cost.
and sorry about the f**k stick comment i didn't know people would get soooooo up set about it
yes exactly but that guy was making stupid comments and i just didn't want to here it.
bottom line is that the technology of a sohc limits its power, and by technology i mean the head.
bottom line is that the technology of a sohc limits its power, and by technology i mean the head.
Well, for one, a 5L mustang set up for race only, kinda like the car that started this thread, running alcohol, wouldn't just be hitting 10's, but at least dipping into the 8's.Andy said:Exactly.....i mean, following that principle why dont we all just buy 5L mustangs?
....someone wash my mouth out....
(no offence turbozinc)